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Is Goku trying to throw a blast so powerful it sends him flying through the ship?

Blast power can be altered is my point. How do you know it was a full powered blast?

There is no room to be forced back. He has to take that into account. Or he’d destroy the ship.

I don't know if we should go with amp for Kkx20. But I see your logic, you are looking for something to trump 50% Freeza.

He amped his ki in his hands and deflected it. Deflection is much easier to do than the other things. Yeah, we need a whole bunch of examples proving how damaged they can get. Look at SPC vs Kid Gohan, SPC's amp probably wasn't a lot, but Gohan was defenseless. I think how they take the blow...

Doesn’t have to be charged to match Nappas amp. Their hand to hand fight already proved them as equals. Yeah Kikoho has to be >> Piccolo

This is excellent. Should still be around 1.33x Id say. Yeah I guess Final Flash is like SBC right? But I don’t know I think Kamehameha might have crazy amp at this stage too? Or is it just because of Final Flash charge up time? I don’t know if Buu Saga amp > CG should be the same.

Yeah, I mean, the entire amazing thing about Dragonball is ki blasts. Ki blasts are like one of the top 3 things in this series, no one else has it quite like this. Being able to shoot huge beams of energy that blow up and destroy planets is what makes Dragonball amazing. But it’s just so wild...

How so? He still stopped its momentum. You can’t stop equal momentum blasts like that.

Never, Nappa is right there with no clear superior indicated. Nappa vs Goku is closer than 2nd Form Freeza Powered up vs Weighted Piccolo. But didn’t you say Raditz can’t fathom amp? Either way, Vegeta can 100% amp right? So Raditz is dumb, right? He barely takes damage, the weaker the...

Hmm, Goku's body is probably amped himself when he's doing the Kamehameha. Hmm such a tough subject. If you go 1.5x it seems pretty harsh here.

Oh that’s the Goated one yeah

Hmm... I think I found a serious error. This shouldn't be possible. Kid Goku landing the Kamehameha on Grandpa Gohan leaves Gohan down for the count for the most part, but Freeza's Nova Strike which is about equal to a Freeza Saga Kamehameha, hits Goku full blasts, puts him down for a little...

"What Blast?" King Piccolo vs Kid Goku's Kamehameha Reecome vs Gohan Imperfect Cell vs Piccolo's Light Grenade LSSJ Broly vs SSJ Goku's Kamehameha RSSJ Broly vs Super Vegeta SPC vs SSJ Vegeta Rage Blast (Does this have a name?) Should this be included since blocked? "Hey, that kind of hurt"...

Isn't that amazing? Imagine actually trying to factor that 2.22x boost now looking back? It has to be thrown out, it's the only way. Which is why it's the best place to go. This is really the only thing that can be furthered at this point. In 2011 I pretty much had 90% of the issues down...

At Baba's tournament when he fought Goku. Man, I don't think we can figure out ki blasts and their effect. This has always been one of the hardest issues ever.

Grandpa Gohan got hit with a full on Original Kamehameha, he's taken out of the fight and most likely severely weakened him, but it didn't evaporate him or anything. Honestly, it feels like AT didn't think this thing through all that much. It's much more in line with how he wants the battle to...

This is a good point, but the fact Vegeta is shocked bothers me. I don't really understand how to make that all work. No ki amp is starting to make a lot more sense, it's pretty crazy to think about.

Roshi had no other blasts. The Kamehameha is the blast he created.

So Ki amps probably don't occur? Agreed, why not reach out to him? Can he come here or he doesn't want to?