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Talked with @GreatSaiyaman123 before about this. Raditz is shocked that they are able to amp. He's completely befuddled by someone concentrating ki. This theme gets passed down to Vegeta and Nappa, but they seem to forget about the ki amp part of it and talk about suppression more. Is this...

Honestly, the Nappa Saga levels are problematic. Man, I hate to be that guy, but the manga power levels have so many issues with them, it's best to discard pretty much all of them if you intend to make a consistent list. But that deters from the popularity of the numbers. If you have Freeza...

Hmm... It does seem most likely. Remember this. Enraged Buuhan ~ Super Saiyan Vegetto. And Kid Buu is on a whole different level than Enraged Buuhan. So you have to think about if Goku included Enraged Buuhan into the conversation, I see no reason why not. Also, the Super anime makes it...

Toriyama intended for Gotenks and Gohan to be the strongest during the Kid Buu Saga. TOEI on the other hand, amended this situation and made Goku and Vegeta surpass Gotenks and Gohan as mere Super Saiyans. I'm speaking about how TOEI doesn't always agree with Toriyama. They make their own...

I've had several names ya

TOEI made their own amendments and GT and anime Super follow TOEIs Goku had for sure

Ssj Goku was able to go toe to tow with Ultimate Gohan in Super Buu’s body. Ssj Goku already surpassed Gohan a long, long time ago.

Seems unlikely, GT should go by the anime Hax Goku whose Ssj2 power already surpasses Buuhan.

Indeed he was. I have a lot of my rebuttal already included in the threads of his lists under another name. Super Saiyan Masta Don is my previous handle, so I addressed my likes and dislikes of the list there. I just checked over some of them and I’d say my rebuttals are still up to date...

If you want to discuss a specific portion of the list display it and we can discuss it.

This doesn’t match up with EoZ, Vegeta implies he could be competitive with Goku at the Tournament, which is most likely not possible if he’s below even Gohan. True but the evidence goes the other way.

So Vegeta couldn’t catch Gohan in 14 years and now he instantly surpasses him a month later?

Vegeta most likely surpassed him EoZ. But what evidence suggests Gohan > Vegeta in GT ever?

Where is it implied Gohan > Vegeta in BoGT?

When did he learn? When did he do specific ki amp training?

Where is Gohan > Vegeta implied in GT? Baby took over Vegeta not Gohan.

When did he learn this new stack? They occurred less than two days apart and they are both generic unnamed blasts. What are you talking about.

How come he didn’t use that attack against Reecome and KKx3 Goku?

Yeah GT definitely interprets it the way @Goku9001 does

That’s a forfeit brother. We are talking about source material.