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The Cell Jrs. were laughing and smiling but they were doing the same against Trunks & Vegeta and Cell hinted they were going all out. I think Goten and Trunks should be a bit stronger than Trunks & Vegeta since they are going up against all 7 of them.

This is how you sidestep an argument without addressing it. It's not a personal preference to claim that the author is just giving an assessment of Piccolo's strength that is easily understood. The weighted clothing isn't given any emphasis here so whether that impacts the intent of Toriyama's...

I think that is the most sensible approach and likely how I would see it. The comparison made between SSJ2 Goku and his performance against Beerus in Battle of Gods certainly does minimize the boosts in power Goku and Vegeta had acquired through RoF, U6, and the filler arc. Whatever boosts they...

My numbers come very close to that.

I don't disagree with this but there were definitely narrative undertones regardless of Beerus' resentment towards Gowasu's claim. There wouldn't be any reason for Beerus to tell Gowasu about Goku's achievements if the viewers were meant to discard them. For one, Beerus conveys to Gowasu that...

Kaioshin blatantly admits to forgetting about SSJ2 Gohan's power. He's only reminded of it after Goku defeated Yakon.

A 15% gap is not enough to do this? Piccolo was overwhelmed but not to the point where he was destroyed until Frieza literally slammed him into the ground.

Yeah, I think the numbers pan out too. Battle Damaged Vegeta would be roughly at 70% power which makes sense. Gohan: 60 Goku/Vegeta: 100 After each gives up 30 units of energy to fill the other half of the Buu meter, we're left with: Battle Damaged Goku/Vegeta: 70 Kid Gohan is at least at a...

I just rewatched the scene and it definitely does seem appear like Gowasu claimed he was on the level of a God of Destruction strictly based on what Goku and Beerus had conveyed to him. However, Beerus does proudly acknowledge that Goku did fight Beerus and survived his battle against him which...

Gowasu sensed Goku's power and asserted that it reached the level of gods based on that. This is supported by Zamasu's response to Goku's power as well. The reason why Gowasu detracted his statement is out of respect for him. Gowasu was scared and wanted to placate Beerus. If you take a look at...

That's such a vague rebuttal. "Here's your interpretation, but it doesn't matter. Here's what I think".

Or it could be a question as to whether or not he can get mad as that is an inherent struggle for him throughout the arc.

Dabura is the one who expressed that Yakon would kill the Saiyans quickly. Babidi was the one who claimed that they needed to be cautious. Babidi was clearly concerned and he was only evaluating their power based on Vegeta's raw performance rather than a power device. It was a rough estimate on...

How is it too close?

From my understanding, that statement from Gowasu was used to indicate that the level Goku was fighting at was beyond the level that could be achieved by a mortal i.e "level of the gods". That should pertain to any level in Z. No, I would think Present Zamasu was on par with SSJ2 Trunks who...

Gohan: ~Super Saiyan: 25 ~Super Saiyan 2: 100 ~True Power: 200 Majin Vegeta/Goku: ~Battle Damaged: 117 ~Full Power: 167 Initial Buu: 110 A little tricky. Might work.

Present Zamasu was at least on the level of Goku at his strongest during his fight with Beerus since the power SSJ2 Goku displayed was stated to be on the level of a GoD. Therefore, his power would surpass SSJ3 Vegetto (Battle of Gods). I think a fair assumption is that Present Zamasu was around...

I think these figures work well. Kuririn: 200k Gohan: 250k Piccolo: ~Weighted: 270k ~Full Power: 320k ~Weighted Kamiccolo: 540k ~Kamiccolo (Full Power): 640k ~Weighted (Post-Nail): 1,350,000 ~Weighted (Full Power): 1,600,000 Frieza: ~2nd Form (Initial): 1,060,000 ~2nd Form (Powered...

I'm not disputing that. I don't think Toriyama thought about the ramifications of what he did by drawing Gohan as a Super Saiyan.

It does and it doesn't help that Goku claims that "Dabura is stronger than I thought" which relies on the information of Dabura's strength that we were given before. Dabura knew about Super Saiyan Goku's strength and asserted that he'd beat all of them (which is supported by the Daiz which lists...