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Sanji seems quite low. I would figure he’s above King.

Zoro Marco Katakuri King Sabo Sanji

I can't see an Elbaf arc without Big Mom involvement. It may not be what we want but it seems the most likely.

Not at all. She may only be relevant for that one arc she comes back in.

Kaido is probably dead I'd wager, we actually saw him getting submerged in the magma before it erupts. Plus I'm not sure what he would add to the story if he were to be back. Big Mom is guarenteed to be alive. She outright said this wouldn't kill her after falling down that hole, Pudding iirc...

It does but the story doesn’t account for it.

:dead:loser

I mean we don't know if that's Haki related.

Nah I think paralyzing an admiral from many miles away is a completely different ballgame.

Yeah I guess that’s a contender. I was moreso thinking of the scale, but Shanks WiFi Haki was probably a larger distance.

The marines do well enough of a job keeping them in line.

If Goku and Gohan can be threatened by it, I don't see why Cell wouldn't. The problem is his regeneration.

Look at what Warcury did compared to Big Mom

Well yeah, I don’t necessarily think it has to be by a significant degree. The same way we would say Kaido >= Big Mom, I would say the same for Shanks.

The thing is that I don’t believe in his hype anymore. If you asked me during Wano I’d have him as top 1 in the world. Now I see several people surpassing him like Shanks, Dragon, maybe even Luffy. Big Mom is basically equal to Kaido and she had trouble against Kid and Law. Shanks 1-shotted...

I mean is there any actual proof that Kaido is any stronger than Oden was? I’m sure he got even stronger since then but the way he talks about Oden makes me think he was truly his rival.

There’s several things to consider though. Ashura Zoro with 1-hp left a permanent scar on Kaido, and he was given PTSD of Oden doing the same to him. Mihawk realistically should be stronger than both of these guys.

Yeah, I’m not saying he definitely is. But his devil fruit might balance that out. Regardless, Mihawk ~ Yonko level is a given right? I don’t think it matters in that case if you think Mihawk is weaker than Old WB. He cant be that much weaker than Kaido.

I mean Mihawk might have just been going off his reputation. It’s also hard to say about Old Whitebeard in comparison to the other Yonko’s. He might not have the endurance to take them on but in pure power he might be stronger.

Like, seriously. What argument does Laido even have? I'm all ears.