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No, he said that may not even be his full power. That's different.

It isn't proven false, because nobody says they are stronger than Piccolo in base. They said they are ok fighting in base... big difference. They can be ok with not using SSJ, again, knowing about Piccolo's standards of not wanting to win like that... or using it in a very quick burst vs...

He is. Again, why is he so surprised at base Vegeta when he wasn't by SSJ2 Gohan?

@FeatsofPower Negative, we know base Saiyans < Piccolo because of the Cell Games. So them being OK with the base limitation can be easily explained like that. @Goku9001 why do they want to fight in base? To avoid unwanted attraction. If they do it quick enough for the human eyes, they...

Kaioshin is still overestimating Pui Pui if he is so impressed at base Vegeta's powers after sensing Gohan's.

Because Piccolo is stronger than their base states, as per earlier evidences. So vs Piccolo, either they understand Piccolo's character and motivations well enough, or they use that in a rapid and quick burst, like Goku using bursts of energies not even the scouters could detect.

You addressed nothing I said. If Gohan is inferior to Piccolo in base, and Piccolo knows why Gohan is doing that, do you think Gohan expects Piccolo to get the W when the Saiyans have a reason to hide their true powers? Really? With 18 yes, since she wanted the prize money, but you know Piccolo...

Again, Goku used SSJ2 in a burst in a quick and rapid fashion. He can do that for the KO blow vs Piccolo when it's a form he has bigger mastery over than SSJ2. He just can't fightmin SSJ for long so others would see him.

We don't know why Goku isn't concerned. He never explicitly stated why. He knows Piccolo's main aim is to have fun with them, he knows Piccolo knows he's inferior when they are SSJ. So even if they are inferior as normal Saiyans, it's to be expected Piccolo wouldn't force a win unfairly. Goku...

Because Goku isn't concerned about Piccolo. He knows Piccolo, and knows Piccolo isn't there to win unfairly when Piccolo knows the Saiyans are handicapping themselves on purpose. And even if Piccolo decided out of character to do that, he could turn SSJ in less than a second and KO Piccolo. He...

Yes, it's a paralysing technique

Does Goku need to worry about Vegeta?

Kaioshin can stop SSJ2 Gohan. Chaozu can't stop Nappa when the gap was 610 vs 4,000, that is, around 7x... Shin less than 7x weaker than SSJ2 Gohan confirmed. :troll

Goku doesn't say we Saiyans. And he's just assessing the competitors outside the main team. He doesn't know how Gohan and Vegeta are in strength. He literally said out of the competitors they are the only ones to catch attention. It says nothing about Saiyans, Piccolo, nothing.

How that statement comes accross as base > Piccolo is just beyond me.....

Goku was saying to himself. By that logic, he shouldn't worry about Gohan, Vegeta.... He's just assessing the competitors besides the main team. Let's not toss out statements without considering context, ppl

Can Pui Pui defeat Gohan? Again, why is Shin surprised by base Vegeta when he seemed more indifferent at SSJ2 Gohan? And I'll say in advance I've already addressed the argument about him forgetting about Gohan --- forgetting one thing doesn't change the way he reacts to things. It's like I sense...

Might be able to defeat who? He was talking about when looking at the cast in general. He pinpointed Shin and Kibito as the dangerous ones out of the scrubs who were fighting lol. It means 0.

He said that to everyone iirc. He didn't specify who he was directing that. It's jsut because they are mysterious beings... the other competitors besides the main team they all know of are trash, but Shin and Kibito are not. That's literally it.