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Tbh, I think the Boo saga implications are easier to handwave. Goku used SSJ2 in a burst and was back to SSJ instantly. With their mastery over SSJ, I just don't see that as not being possible for an one time attack when charging at Piccolo. Goten was just not careful enough. He stood in SSJ for...

Can be. Since it's a boost that focus solely on power, I'm not against it being a huge boost like 10x stated in the Mango Legendario. It's a pointless state, so however strong it may be, it hasn't much relevance.

Lol MikaelHarding, the legend of debate

Yes, when the implication for Freeza > base lied heavily on Super, you feats and many others ignored it and wrote it off as contradicting the original manga... because the manga, and I agree in it, tells a different story. So why act the oppposite now that you have found a piece of evidence that...

Yeah, but even if Then thought he was the better, that was a possibility thought by him. If he knew Tao was defeated, I don't think he'd cling onto the possibility of it being absolutely a fluke if Yamcha being the strongest hadn't been solidified yet, since it was the taste he had from Kame's...

That's right, well remembered. But still not to a level of mastering it, of it not influencing him. We'd need to gauge when the 10x and 0 for him, was the same.

It's because I like to have its boost the same as grade 3's boost, as if the SSJ2 were the right way to access that type of power... and a SSJG3 is a 2.5x minimal to me given it has to be considerably above the Cell who can kick Trunks's SSJg2 ass easily, when SSJG2 is already a good deal above SSJ.

After Tenshinhan defeats Yamcha easily though, him and Tsuru can't believe Tao was defeated and thought of that as a fluke. Wouldn't that mean Yamcha's level didn't warrant for them enough of ability to defeat Tao?

So let's say a warrior who has never experienced gravity enhancements before needs 8,000 to completely master that, as was the case with Goku, tho he did catch Bubbles before he had a 8,000 BP, maybe? Possibly. Or maybe he achieved 8,000 and the rest was focused on the Kaioken and the GD...

Yeah. But estimating Pui Pui's strength is only possible if you go the route of him being > Kaioshin, then in consequence >>> Piccolo, then >>>>> android 17 at a bare minimum. Going this route, he'd be Semi Cell's level, maybe. I go another route, I think he's weak and just scared Shin cause...

For real now, who wins this? Serious thread.

I think his editor helped a lot making the story better, tho AT should sometimes think of him as a pain in the ass

Why is he impressed then when Gohan's former power didn't impress him that much? Don't you agree that Kaioshin is in a different mental state at the ship?

He has memory issues due to overwork at that time. Being a mangaka ain't no easy job. We should discuss more about the issues of mangakas

The same RoF which had Toriyama writing that Freeza achieving a battle power of 1,300 would be impressive... or then in the movie had Piccolo fighting a Zarbon tier opponent evenly.

He doesn't know how strong Dabura was? Or Gohan was at his best vs Dabura?

Super sucks. I don't care.

You assume it is wacky, that's the difference. He was abysmed by Goku's SSJ2 burst of power. He sensed that accurately.

So he sensed a 1000 power but is impressed by a 100 power because of the latter's speed? He didn't know what the 1000 power could do way more? Come on now.