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"Easily over 30,000" must mean it's easy to tell he's stronger than 30,000, even at a quick glance. So something like 30,200 doesn't cut the mustard. It'd likely be at least 31,000.

I watched it, you're right. Jeice says Vegeta's power is easily over 30,000. Makes no sense but whatever.

The Recoome fight didn't seem like he was toying too much. After the Final Crash, he said that was enough warming up for him and then he really began beating Vegeta's cheeks. Nothing Vegeta did after that point really amounted to any damage, even when he seemingly caught Recoome off-guard (like...

Wasn't the original intention for Freeza to be 1,300,000...?

In the Japanese version or the English version?

One thing I would highly suggest is if you put the individual sagas in spoilers so that it's not a gigantic wall of text. Walls of text are difficult to read, especially when it's a lot of tedious zeroes. Anyway... Vegeta was stated to be "barely 30,000" so him being nearly 40,000 is...

Agreed with the current consensus. Vegeta is strong enough to last while Trunks gives some aid.

5 years.

Battle of Gods - 778 Beerus's comment about his last fight with Vegeta taking place a couple years ago automatically means the Tournament of Power is at least 2 years after BoG, so we'd be in 780 minimum. Bulma isn't showing Bra's pregnancy when Goku Black is around but she's almost due before...

That, or they simply improved from their fights like Super seems to be going with. Cabba and Vegeta were equals in the U6 tournament, yet by the ToP, if Base Goku ~ 4th Form Freeza, Cabba can't be close to Vegeta at all since he's weaker than Caulifla who, as a Super Saiyan, was only mildly...

I guess that's fair enough. Others have suggested Vegeta simply got a lot stronger before going to the future, I guess from training with Trunks off-screen? But that sounds dumb as fuck to me. Oh, that. I thought you meant Caulifla was beating SSJ Cabba. Well, that just makes it even more clear...

In the manga? When? So Vegeta's SSJ2 is just stronger than Goku's SSJ3 all of the sudden? I'm not opposed to the idea, but it's just completely random and never really supported outside of that one fight.

You might be able to figure out multipliers that work for God and Blue, but then you have to factor in how fighters opposite the main cast affect those boosts. SSJ2 Vegeta > SSJ Black > Black > SSJ3 Goku How does God and Blue work with that in mind? Yeah, but they do... It's different for...

They are but you can't treat them like common street hos. You have to buy them a luxury room at least.

If people can treat characters as total idiots when it's beneficial to them, why can't I do the same for Whis here?

But, like, Black. You forgot to factor him in.

How does that work? You still wind up with the same problem regardless if they absorbed the god power or not.

Characters don't realize that.

Fan logic dictates all characters are inept and stupid, so when Goku said it multiplied power, it was really just an addition of a few units.

Would that then translate to Super Saiyan God? Because it doesn't feel right to keep God closer to Super Saiyan 3 as Blue gets more powerful. The godly forms should be in their own tier.