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    SSjin Vegetto (Androids Arc) vs Super Perfect Cell

    It might not, but there's nothing in Goku's assessment of Beerus that supports it either.
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    SSjin Vegetto (Androids Arc) vs Super Perfect Cell

    Either way, it results in the same thing. Goku couldn't sense Beerus's ki, so whether Beerus was using the same power level and different effort output (like Raditz) or changing his power level, he would need to be doing something in order to not effortlessly kill all the Z Fighters since...
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    Movie 9 humans

    And then had Krillin get OHKO'd by his mistress.
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    SSjin Vegetto (Androids Arc) vs Super Perfect Cell

    And Beerus was using the same level against everybody?
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    UI Goku (Current) vs Vegeta Mega UI?

    Impossible to decide right now.
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    SSjin Vegetto (Androids Arc) vs Super Perfect Cell

    I don't see how.
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    SSjin Vegetto (Androids Arc) vs Super Perfect Cell

    That ain't even supported in the narrative, you fucking clackbridge troll.
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    SSjin Vegetto (Androids Arc) vs Super Perfect Cell

    I think the most obvious example is Gogeta. In BoG, Goku stated fusion wouldn't work against Beerus, yet Base Gogeta was stronger than Super Saiyan Blue, let alone Super Saiyan God.
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    SSjin Vegetto (Androids Arc) vs Super Perfect Cell

    It's not stated specifically, but Super shows us this with Kefla, Vegetto and Gogeta.
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    Dragon Ball Questions/Arguments/Theories/Comments/Answers

    Someone's got the Reverse Uno card on permanent with the kind of logic that makes the weakest fighter the strongest.
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    Movie 9 Trunks vs Gohan

    He was literally lying on a bed watching TV. That's not Vegeta. Lol.
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    SSjin Vegetto (Androids Arc) vs Super Perfect Cell

    It's not my guess. We know Base Vegetto (Boo) > SSJ3 Goku (Boo). However, I did make an error by forgetting that fusion is based on the fusees' highest power, wherein Goku and Vegeta were limited to just Super Saiyan during the Android Saga. That would severely cut down Vegetto's power, forcing...
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    Gohan > SSJ Vegeta? (BoG Anime)

    We know the ToP was at least 2 years from BoG because Beerus commented that it had been a "couple years" since they'd last fought. The Earth Dragon Balls were used during DBS: Broly, so that would need to be at least a year after RoF. Moro and Granolah have both taken up at least half a year...
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    Gohan > SSJ Vegeta? (BoG Anime)

    Weren't there two timeskips at the start of Super, before Beerus showed up to fight?
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    Dragon Ball Questions/Arguments/Theories/Comments/Answers

    God Scale Don't know about the anime. I'm a manga guy. Goku, Vegeta, Broly, and Granolah have all surpassed Belmod for sure since they're all stronger than Jiren. They're not even close to surpassing Beerus/Quitela, and that's about all I can say for certain. Zeno > Grand Priest > Angels >...
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    Gohan > SSJ Vegeta? (BoG Anime)

    They retconned Pan's age just like they retconned Bulma's. But yeah, at least in the manga, Piccolo was surprised Gohan was defeated so easily, which wouldn't make a lot of sense if Vegeta was even stronger and hadn't fought yet.
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    The Gospel of Truth (YGO Guidebook)

    I guess if you're a tourist and you get shot or stabbed, you better have a way to get to the next town. That's retarded as fuck.
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    Gap between Piccolo and Imperfect Cell

    Goku had no boost for that.
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    Dragon Ball Super Strongest Characters

    Well, you are. You're trying to excuse your erroneous method of powerscaling by making up a what-if for the future with no basis or evidence to support it, rather than just trying to deal with one continuity. Anyone can create what-ifs for their power levels but they're irrelevant until noted.
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    Dragon Ball Super Strongest Characters

    Now you're making things up. They can also make him absorb Vegeta's butthole but that's completely irrelevant to this current discussion.
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