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Piccolo is like Krillin, always going to help regardless of how he compares to the threat. He was going to interfere against Perfect Cell before Goku stopped him, and he already knew he was complete trash compared to that level. Him wanting to save the duo doesn't weigh heavily for me in regard...

But how do you compare Sign with the tournament level here? Considering the extreme buff Goku got training with Merus.

Belmod's lack of actual intent to fight hampers comparisons with him, unfortunately.

Why would he lose to suppressed Cell? Are you on your meds again?

It was the most surefire and reliable way at the time. Trying to use an unstable version of Complete Blue was too much of a risk IMO.

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Vegetto: 200 ~ Super Saiyan: 10,000 ~ Super Saiyan 2: 20,000 ~ Super Saiyan 3: 80,000 Evil Boo: 1,500 ~ Gotenks-absorbed: 3,300 ~ Gohan-absorbed: 4,000 Ultimate Gohan: 2,400 Gotenks: 0.05 ~ Super Saiyan: 2.5 - post-ROAST - Gotenks: 4.25 ~ Super Saiyan: 212.5 ~ Super Saiyan 3: 1,700 Super...

M8 Broly is overwhelmed by Cell's superior knowledge, skill set, and possibly power. They're close enough, anyway. M10 Broly smokes either version of Cell if he could fold SSJ2 Gohan who, for all intents and purposes, continued training after the Cell Games in that continuity.

There's no reason to think Vegetto couldn't do it. He's got the combined intelligence of Goku and Vegeta, after all, one of which was able to get it almost perfected on the first try, the other of which did do it on his first try (after seeing someone else do it, admittedly).

They can use the unseen universes as asspulls to make EoZ fit.

Goku and the others went to the Galactic Patrol party a few days after beating Moro. A few months passed after that before Granolah appeared to find Seven-Three's regeneration tank. Granolah says it'll take 2 days to get from the Heeter base to Planet Cereal. Vegeta starting his training with...

I want to see how someone else translates it actually. It might just be an old Herms miscalculation that's never been updated or caught.

How much damage did the gods take from each other?

He couldn't even tap into Sign at will during the tournament but now it's like Super Saiyan. Does that not imply he's gotten at least a little stronger?

The fusion gets negligible gains or goes minus, so he loses.

Seven-Three had Moro's power during his first trip to Earth.

It's actually kind of ridiculous the gap this puts between Beerus and Belmod. Beerus can near-effortlessly stomp Vegeta, who can likely stomp Jiren by now, who's stronger than Belmod. It also means any of the gods in range of Beerus' power could also quickly dispatch of the implied weaker gods...

I never noticed before but Liquiir seems to have his normal power and then the power he uses when he's got nine tails, because he reverts to normal after being hit by Heles' arrow.

Makes one wonder when Moro gave Seven-Three his power.

It's weird to see Android 18's performance. She was never stated or implied to have powered up. In fact, she said she only came because she was being paid (fuckin' hooker). But she backed up 17 against Saganbo and attacked Moro together as well. Moro said she and 17 had great energy, not...