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Mihawk could have better CoA, while Roger likely had better CoC.

Gohan barely beats him out I think.

Her power is suppressed compared to 17, so there should be a noticeable difference between the two.

Have we ever seen Vegeta destroy a planet though? :molest3

Goku definitely had a decent edge over Roshi. The Kamehameha clash could be explained as Roshi having superior ki control, but Roshi seemed outmatched everywhere else.

Don't make fun of my illiteracy :autism

Yes, Pakl, I see your point that Goku had only recently revealed SSj2 in the manga. Unfortunately, it seems you forgot to realize that the Goku in the 2nd Broly movie is the same as Boo arc Goku, meaning he was a SSj2.

Who wins? :cage2

@GreatSaiyaman123 Just because he unlocked his potential while doing the mind control spell doesn't necessarily mean they're directly connected. Babidi had to do something additional in order to unlock his potential, rather than just letting the mind control spell do it in of itself. Unless what...

Chapter: 456 (DBZ 262), P4.3 Context: as Babidi takes control of Vegeta Babidi: “While I’m at it, I’ll draw out his hidden power to beyond [his? its?] limits!” This implies that the potential unlock is separate from the mind control spell.

Didn't he one shot Ultimate Gohan? I think he should definitely be competitive with Gohan Boo at the least, though he probably loses to Rildo.

I don't think Chaozu can beat a single Ginyu Force member, with the exception of maybe Ghurd.

Chapter: 479 (DBZ 285), P10.1-5 Context: Elder Kaioshin explains his ‘ability’ Elder Kaioshin: “With my psychic powers, I can take the hidden power which anyone has, no matter how amazing a master they may be, and draw it wa~~ay, wa~~ay out above their limits. Ehehehehe…Have you ever heard of an...

He may be stronger and more durable than Kuro, but that's not gonna help against the massive speed advantage Kuro would have.

:bog

So where do you think he would be then?

Have you factored in the strain of SSJ2 though :molest3

:donovan Tbh my main reason for having Goku's potential on that level is from scaling off of his EoZ self. His base seemed to be around Kid Boo's level, so I estimated his ultimate state would reach around Gotenks' level. As long as Gohan's potential is still higher, I don't see it being a big...

Only if he goes SSj3 like he did against Goku. In SSj2 he gets overwhelmed.

Chapter: 294 (DBZ 100), P2.2 Piccolo: “I feel an outrageously large ki far away…! Is th-this the monster called Freeza…!? There’s three huge ki close by…! That must be Gohan and the others…!” I think Piccolo referring to suppressed Freeza as a monster puts him above Piccolo.