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He tapped SSJ2.5 power, like Trunks :king

I sometimes just go by the fan theory that the weaker blast that got overpowered cushions the blow from the stronger blast. It's the only way to make sense of Piccolo, Vegeta and Freeza not being vaporized from Goku's blasts.

Battle of the GOATs.

I was against that idea since like 2005

Makes sense seeing as he forgot he was making a movie marketed as Dragon Ball Super :alex2

That's why I go with Gohan being SSJ1. Makes everything make more sense, other than that retarded dialogue of Kibito being told he hadn't seen the Saiyans at their greatest power. I also think the Majin charm unlocking Vegeta's SSJ2 for him is retarded because he only went SSJ when suffering...

Perhaps AT was aware of this irony and had Vegeta barely win that sparring match to continue the trend

Goku already revealed his ace move against suppressed PC so my money's on SPC due to his regen and more haxed abilities. It'll be a very close fight though.

I think he considers his fight against Goku in the Boo arc a defeat essentially because Goku was holding back an entire transformation.

I go with Gohan > SSJ1 adults. He's still able to keep up with and even briefly overwhelm a Cell tier opponent (regardless of whether he's using MSSJ tier or SSJ2 tier power), I see no reason to inflate PM Vegeta to the extent that he can defeat an SSJ2 when even with the Majin Boost and SSJ2 he...

Wasn't Cell's time machine destroyed from the inside? If 17 and 18 weren't around, I'd think the first thing he'd do would be to interrogate one of the weaker Z senshi or ambush Trunks again for information and then find them in Gero's lab. Even if he were to steal Trunks' time machine he'd...

Wouldn't they still have Cell to worry about?

What do you think happens when the androids are absorbed while being critically wounded? Would Cell heal them, or would they die inside him?

Buff Boo might have had reasoning abilities similar to Super Boo

I don't think he was close, just that Boo's gum constitution makes his durability shit. His only feat aside from catching Boo in that net of Ki was deflecting some blast meant for :shin, which isn't saying much.

Oh that's interesting. I stopped reading the manga just after Gogeta vs. Crimson Mask Black so I was going by the anime.

Isn't it more frequently treated as equal to SSJBE? Vegeta was clashing with Xeno Vegeta in the aforementioned form just as Goku fought Xeno Goku, and there's even an episode where regular Blue Vegetto was depicted in the same tier as LB Xeno Vegetto.

We never see Grand Kaioshin vs Buff Boo in the manga. He could've just tried to seal Boo or something like with Moro only to be absorbed because Boo figured another absorption would make him even stronger.

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