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Goku and Vegeta are now both stronger than Broly

UI tier

So: Goku/Vegeta (SSJB Granolah arc) > SSJB Gogeta > LSSJ Broly > SSJ Broly > Jiren > UI Goku :ahshit2

Lol no

Anime you've watched recently?

:manabu

Black of course, JOBgeta never wins

True true, Nuova Shenron, Naturon Shenron

Asuka. Because you molested me. Dolltaki

Can you check Ask Pocket-Gog I need to know why you are gay

Why are you gay?

No.

Goku (Base):1 Vegeta (Base/Post Training):1 Frieza:1 Android 17 (Heavily Suppressed):1 Android 18 (Post Training):1 Tien (Post Training):1 Krillin (Post Training):1 Master Roshi:1 Piccolo (No Weights):1 Gohan (Post Training/Ultimate/Heavily Suppressed):1 Prum:1 Jimizu:1 Katopesla:1 Nink:1 Vegeta...

So the full list: Base Goku (Post U6) > Kaio-Ken Blue x10 Goku (U6) > Beerus > MUI Goku (ToP)

Are we also forgetting the time when SSJB Kaio Ken Goku was enough to make Beerus nervous?

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Super Baby Vegeta 1, GT Goku, Super 17, Syn Shenron, Nuova Shenron.

Yeah, I checked it out. But that is literally contradicted by the ToP and Goku being able to use Super Saiyan God.

God Ki means your Ki cannot be sensed, the entire crux of the argument comes from Goku adsorbing God Ki into base during his fight with Beerus. If his Ki can be felt while in base that means Goku doesn't have that power any longer. The fact that the series later goes on to say that no Goku...

Which was why he could independently turn into SSJG in the ToP arc. I know what BoG said but to be blunt the writers pushed the series to be more inline with what Toriyama was doing in the manga. Even in episode "71" of Dragon Ball Super when Base Goku transforms into Super Saiyan Blue Piccolo...