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All right I'm not interested. We clearly don't see eye to eye. They're not Blue tier when they're drastically that below Goku.

Toppo didn't beat Frieza to a pulp outside of his GoD form. The writers have stated that Golden Frieza was on par with Blue Goku, which means that Frieza had to have gotten stronger throughout the tournament to make that possible. It also helps explain why Android 17 could keep up with Blue Goku...

This is Super being Super just like how Base Goku and Base Vegeta could survive a hit from Merged Zamasu.

Rewatch their fight prior to the Tournament of Power. Frieza explicitly needs his Golden form to match Base Goku's speed despite being capable of matching Dyspo's speed later on. Frieza would have needed to have gotten stronger for that to happen. My position is simply that if Blue Goku and Blue...

Where do Frieza and 17 stand relative to Blue Goku and Blue Vegeta who explicitly match up against a Powered Up Jiren, one that is far stronger than UI Omen Goku and SSJ2 Kefla? You are still dodging around on the whole Frieza ~ Dyspo thing as well.

1. I don't recall Kale being that weak in episode 114. Toppo and Blue Vegeta are nervous about it and Goku is gritting his teeth and is terrified despite being able to use Super Saiyan 3. That would suggest that Berserker Kale was far beyond SSJ3 Goku but below God Goku after his battles with...

I would say Caulifa was definitely stronger than them. The U6 Namekians are individually weaker than Base Gohan but prove to be a much more significant threat when working together and taking advantage of their high resilience and regeneration. And as @GreatSaiyaman123 already mentioned, a...

No. He was gathering genki the moment he donned his blue aura. Time: 19:00-19:26

No clue honestly but she seemed control of herself which is the only logical explanation because Kale is only stated to have gone berserk again during Episode 114. Berserker Kale's power was what made Jiren's hand twitch.

Was that before the ToP?

He's talking about Trunks' energy as if he never experienced anything like it at all. Trunks powered up from the energy of the mortals. His whole display against Zamasu was strictly a team effort.

Good. I still stand by what I said.

Zamasu got slower, but his power never dropped. I think I made my point here and you didn't address anything. But I've been reading your prior posts and you seem like a troll so I rest my case here.

Kunshi, Dyspo, Random asshat who nearly knocked Goku off the stage, Pride Troopers, Ribrianne and her posse, the stretchy dude that Tired Dyspo nearly lost to. Keep in mind that Goku can still be pushed to his limits in any form. Aside from that, the mere prospect of battling Merged Zamasu...

They didn't because Berserker Kale (114) is firmly established to be the same power Goku felt when he first confronted Berserker Kale. Both Toppo and Blue Vegeta take note of this and Toppo states that the energy is tremendous and must take the Saiyans seriously based on that. During their...

Except it could not. She only used that power twice throughout the entire tournament. The point is that your rebuttal of Jiren not getting involved is nonsense. He reduced her to a point where she was no longer a threat like Goku hence why he didn't pursue either of them. Kale never displayed...

You say this but this all occurred after Blue Goku ragdolled him with Kaioken. The only thing the narrative supports during the fight is that Merged Zamasu couldn't comprehend the energy Trunks was exhibiting after battling Vegetto Blue. The narrative is clearly pointing towards the Genkidama...

There's no implication of SSJ3 Goku being stronger than Berserker Kale.

Berserker Kale or as she was when Goku unveiled Super Saiyan 3?

The narrator and Beerus both claim that Kale had gone berserk again (Ep 114). Goku vividly calls back to his first encounter with Berserker Kale and references her power explicitly. I think you are genuinely confused here, not to mention that Kale blatantly outperforms Caulifa against God Goku.