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  1. Goku9001

    If Vegetto SSJB (Arc Zamasu / Anime) power is 100 What level do you give the following characters?

    Yes, his body falling apart was a result of his mind becoming unstable and filled with rage which enabled him to power up and battle Vegetto Blue in the first place. That's not evidence of Zamasu's power having fallen.
  2. Goku9001

    If Vegetto SSJB (Arc Zamasu / Anime) power is 100 What level do you give the following characters?

    What's the quote and falling apart in what sense?
  3. Goku9001

    Goku SSJB (Vs Jiren / Episode 109) vs Vegeta SSJB (Start of ToP)?

    How is thrashing Blue Goku (because of stupidity), alarming both Toppo and Blue Vegeta, somehow not a Blue tier feat? You keep forgetting that Goku had gotten stronger by battling Jiren and Caulifa/Kale before battling FPSSJ Kale in God.
  4. Goku9001

    Goku SSJB (Vs Jiren / Episode 109) vs Vegeta SSJB (Start of ToP)?

    No but it does put into perspective how strong combo attacks are in general because there is something explicitly alarming about it. Goku urgently responded to it once he noticed Vegeta was about to be caught into it. Not that it means anything because we know Berserker Kale is tremendously...
  5. Goku9001

    Goku SSJB (Vs Jiren / Episode 109) vs Vegeta SSJB (Start of ToP)?

    I mean, Goku and Vegeta literally went Blue just to counter the U10 Trio's combo attack. Combo attacks are much stronger in the anime than attacks individually.
  6. Goku9001

    Goku SSJB (Vs Jiren / Episode 109) vs Vegeta SSJB (Start of ToP)?

    Context. Kale was an unstoppable force that no one could seem to bring down. Likewise, Maji Kiyo was someone Dyspo couldn't bring down which is why Jiren intervened. Kale's power was clearly what was emphasized when Jiren went and disposed of her. The only thing we know for certain is that Maji...
  7. Goku9001

    Gap between Sick Goku and Yardrat Goku

    The logic doesn't follow. That only tells us Goku is far from full power but doesn't tell us where Goku is relative to his Yardrat self.
  8. Goku9001

    Goku SSJB (Vs Jiren / Episode 109) vs Vegeta SSJB (Start of ToP)?

    Kale was definitely Blue tier. Toppo was impressed by her power and it took a power much greater than Toppo's to take her out. It's also one of the few times Jiren ever gets involved.
  9. Goku9001

    Goku SSJB (Vs Jiren / Episode 109) vs Vegeta SSJB (Start of ToP)?

    No it definitely is a problem because it undermines what Belmod and his Angel says about Goku's power. Jiren had to use more power against Goku than he did against Kale. They explicitly state Jiren is using "overwhelming" power against Goku. The power he uses against Kale is something that is...
  10. Goku9001

    Vegeta SSJB (Start of ToP) vs Kefla Base?

    Blue Goku (vs. Jiren) is definitely stronger. The power Jiren used against Kale is above Toppo's and Jiren used even more power to fight against Blue Goku.
  11. Goku9001

    If Vegetto SSJB (Arc Zamasu / Anime) power is 100 What level do you give the following characters?

    SSJ Rage Trunks' Genkidama should be stronger than Vegetto Blue's Final KHH given that wasn't enough to overcome Merged Zamasu's invincibility. The Genkidama was likely at ~150. I don't believe in the "Merged Zamasu's power had fallen" nonsense.
  12. Goku9001

    Suppose the power of UI Goku (Vs Granolah) is 1

    Granolah definitely did get stronger after his battle with Vegeta. He's able to maintain his newfound power whereas against Goku and Vegeta, he was absolutely struggling to wield it.
  13. Goku9001

    Hit got stronger between the Fill against Goku and the Start of the ToP?

    Hit never had the dummy feints, intangibility, or invisible energy blasts. Those techniques aren't inherently lethal. The only move Hit had at that moment was implied to be Time Skip since he never felt the need to evolve his technique until after his fight with Goku. That's when he develops...
  14. Goku9001

    What if Goku got a Zenkai Power, after Kale LSSJ hit Goku SSJB (Suppressed vs Kale)?

    Yes, but she wasn't in that form. She was just a regular Super Saiyan when she saw Goku transform into SSJ3. It's only after that moment that Kale enters her green-haired form and goes berserk. Then she manages to control it with the help of Caulifa.
  15. Goku9001

    RoF Power Chain Anime

    Seems about right. What is Base Gohan (top form) though?
  16. Goku9001

    What if Goku got a Zenkai Power, after Kale LSSJ hit Goku SSJB (Suppressed vs Kale)?

    Kale was just a regular Super Saiyan when she witnessed Super Saiyan 3 which is far weaker than her green-haired Super Saiyan form. When she reigns in her green-haired Super Saiyan form, she manages to fight pretty well against God but was ultimately overpowered. I would say Goku did improve...
  17. Goku9001

    Vegeta SSJB (Fill) vs Hit (Fill)?

    Well yeah. They were both knocked out and could hardly get up. If Hit was using another transformation, he would have reverted back to his base form as well. The fight was clearly a draw and Hit admits to that.
  18. Goku9001

    ToP Anime

    How I see it: Golden Frieza (Finale) ~ SSJB Goku (Finale) >> SSJB Goku (vs. Jiren) > SSJB Goku (vs. Kale/Dyspo) ~ Hit > Dyspo (Speed) > Final Form Frieza. The way I see it is that Dyspo hard-counters Hit's abilities hence why Hit is struggling against Dyspo. I think there is an argument for...
  19. Goku9001

    Hit vs Freeza

    Hit wins. I have a suspicion that all Blue tier fighters improved as the tournament progressed. But regardless, Frieza can't counter Hit's new moves before Hit nearly incapacitates him with dummy feints and invisible energy blasts.
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