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I think it's worth noting Goten and Gohan also seemed to be on an intense spar midway through their training with both as SSJs... So I don't know if Gohan evolved at a way quicker pace. Besides, Goten also has huge potential considering he has already that much power over playing around with...

Thoughts? I think he was a well handled and consistent character for the most part.

Yeah but do you think, original manga wise, he could surpass Ultimate Gohan or Bootenks, Boohan?

That's why I wonder what Goku expected of Oob to be. Because if he expects him to release all his potential, who's likely above Gohan's, wouldn't that mean he'd be too much for Goku? And Goku was expecting an all out battle when the training was complete. Funny thing is that Goku battled Oob...

Well, Goku stated someone besides Mr. Boo might win and then later stated his expectations of Uub were met, only that he couldn't properly control his powers. So it seems pretty likely Oob was already displaying Kid Boo's levels of power but hadn't the proper control over it. The fact Goku's arm...

In case Keedounan doesn't respond and I don't think he will, would be up for a debate on DB about a topic we disagree on with nice back and forth, but limited ones not to make it winded, like 4 back and forth at most? It's been a while to me I guess I think this is my last week debating DB haha.

I like to think Goku didn't catch up to Gohan and that such was a barrier he wouldn't catch up to. While limits seem like a wild thing in DB, the thing with Old Kaioshin seemed more serious. Goku even kinda joked saying he sees it a lot, as a common power, but then Old Kaioshin stresses his as...

Is it said Goku is the strongest at the end of Z? Not in the manga at least.

Trunks wouldn't be suppressing himself when fighting in base, the bother was actually the costume being restrictive. But the question is, can 18 be at FP and at the same time seem composed when seeing the ones she hit at FP and didn't damage just increased their power through SSJ? I wonder...

Some more feedback? Maybe I'll save the Kaioshin Vs Piccolo debate for latter. What do you guys feel about placing the base kids (Boo saga) on SSJ Vegeta's level when he fought 18? Main problem is that places them more distanced from the adults and Gohan than I'd like. It's tough to have them =...

At least when Goku is taking off with Oob, he shouts "we'll get even stronger!!'. Maybe stronger in the sense Oob will learn how to use his power effectively, but yeah, it likely he'll push him way beyond that. If Oob already conformed to Goku's expectations in the tournament, where he said...

Do you think he only intends to make Oob use his power more properly, bringing him effectively to Kid Boo's level? Or do you think he intends to push him way farther than that?

Hey Keedounan, what's up man. It's been a while. Are you up for a challenge regarding debating DBZ? I'm on my last weekends off and I don't know why, but I felt like posting a lot about this same old shit while on it lol. I remember you were one of the first posters who started debating me back...

Yes, gave Goku one of the most intense battles in the Saiyans saga, which is one hell of a gift you can give to Goku.

One thing worth noting is that maybe Super Boo was shaken up and mentally affected because he learned Gotenks had a limited fusion time and he was already counting on absorbing them to best Gohan. When Gotenks reveals that, Super Boo seems to react to such statement in the hole he was in, whilst...

Don't know why I still write this much in those kinda topics

Or do you think it grew up to the point it's just cringe and in bad taste nowadays? Won't deny it, I found them funny when I firstly watched it as a kid and as a teenager... But it's just cringe and in bad taste to me now when I see them. Roshi wanting to see Bulma's pants, who was 16 years old...

Goku kind of admitted it, implicitly, to Piccolo, that he could have defeated fat Boo, but chose not to do so because of the new generation. It wasn't as blatant as him saying such later on to Vegeta, but to me it's kinda easy to read in between the lines. Piccolo obviously doesn't buy Goku's...

Who said it again? Btw, thinking it over seeing how incredible Goku just was in the tournament is one thing. Kuririn and Yamcha thought Goku as just untouchable there. It doesn't mean their own training can't surprise them and benefit them with gains enough that they have their confidence...

Kami stated Goku had an exceptional master and Roshi just praised Karin and Kami instead. It's understandable he wouldn't say 'Goku is also why he's this strong". Roshi didn't think he deserved the credit and returned it to Karin and Kami instead. There isn't much to it. It could have been also...