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    Android Saga Powerscale

    I can't find the old topic where a lot of this was addressed, so have at thee. What do you think about this chain? Android 16 > Android 17 = Kamiccolo > Kamiccolo (suppressed) >=< Android 18 > Imperfect Cell > Future 17 = Future 18 = SSJ Vegeta >= SSJ Goku >= SSJ Trunks > Piccolo > SSJ Goku...
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    Barnacles, help me out with this.

    I've been trying to construct a battle power list for the Future Trunks arc (in the manga, obviously), but I can't seem to get it to work. The transformation boosts are the most troublesome aspect, because the powerscale cannot work with the boosts implied in the Universe 6 tournament. Base...
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    Dragon Ball Super Strength Checker (Viz Manga)

    Fully updated. I'm in the process of putting individual characters in spoiler tags too since this is getting ridiculously long. :alex Yeah, that's better now.
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    Dragon Ball Super Strength Checker (Viz Manga)

    Yeah, I'm completely up to date. I just haven't updated this thread yet.
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    Clickbait Title: KALE IS STRONGER THAN SUPER SAIYAN GOD SUPER SAIYAN?!!

    :diebitch I'll start this off nice and sweet like a standard hardcore porno these days. Kale, or Female Broly, or Brale, is NOT stronger than Super Saiyan Blue Goku—at least not from what I witnessed. Let me lay it out for you cucks. What does Goku do when Kale first turns into her Berseker...
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    GT Strength Checker

    It looks like I've got episodes 59, 60, and 61 on my computer. Sorting through it will take a few minutes with Word being in a weird layout. OK, I've updated those episodes. Now we only need 58, 62, 63, and 64.
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    GT Strength Checker

    It appears episode 58 is when we stopped doing it altogether. I think I have some more from beyond that point on my computer, but I don't know how far I got. I'll have to check.
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    GT Strength Checker

    It is not. I really ought to finish it, but every time I try, I realize how much I don't care for GT.
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    Base Vegetto (Super manga) runs the glove

    Base Vegetto from the DBS manga has a go at the almighty glove. How far can he make it? 1. SSJ3 Goku & SSJ2 Trunks (both from Black arc) 2. SSG Goku (U6 tournament) 3. SSG Goku & Hit (U6 tournament) 4. SSB Goku (Black arc) & SSB Vegeta (pre-RoSaT, Black arc) 5. SSB Goku (Black arc) & SSB Vegeta...
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    Could SSG3 Trunks initially be faster than SSG2 Vegeta?

    Rereading the fight for a different topic, I noticed Trunks really didn't do too poorly against Cell at first. It's after he pumped up to full power that Cell began to nonchalantly dodge his attacks. When he initially transformed to Grade 3, Trunks was able to dodge one kick from Cell point...
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    Should we really base gaps off of the Namek arc?

    Going by the officially released numbers, either through the guidebooks or the manga, Kui, Dodoria, Zarbon, and Vegeta (pre-zenkai) are all within the 18,000 to 24,000 range. Vegeta: 24,000 Zarbon: 23,000 Dodoria: 22,000 Kui: 18,000 That's a fairly small range of only 6,000 units, yet Vegeta...
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    Vegeta: Super Saiyan God or not? (Manga)

    Do you think Vegeta had Super Saiyan God/Red before training in the Room of Spirit and Time at the end of chapter 22? Personally, I find it a bit too convenient that Vegeta's transformation was given the spotlight both visually and the narrative was teasing it at first before Vegeta finally...
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    Dragon Ball Super Strength Checker (Viz Manga)

    I'll try to get 20-23 done tonight. edit: 20-22 done. Just gotta do 23. I might be excluding some things, but it's pretty difficult to determine what actually merits being included. Some lines tow the line between too vague and direct statement way too much.
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    Useful Links/Tools

    General Information Kanzenshuu Strength Checker Kanzentai Translations How do I use Google? Debating Tips 101 Raw HQ Scans Image Sharing Websites Imgur Postimage Flickr This is for valid, objective information websites and tools to use in discussions (not opinion threads or the like). There...
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    KP's No Scouter No BS Power Level List

    Multipliers: SSJ: 50x ASSJ: 1.5x SSJ USSJ: 1.75x SSJ SSJ 2: 2 x SSJ SSJ 3: 4x SSJ 2 Saiyan Saga: Battle With Raditz: Farmer: 5 Raditz: 1200 Piccolo (Weighted): 320 Piccolo (Not Weighted): 400 Goku (Weighted): 335 Goku (Not Weighted): 415 Gohan: 1300 Piccolo 1st Special Beam Cannon: 1,300...
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    Dragon Ball Super Strength Checker (Viz Manga)

    Alright, but seriously, how was it implied pre-RoSaT SSB Vegeta was anywhere near SSR Black's level? He was getting beaten down by post-zenkai SSJ Black, who said Vegeta was merely at an adequate level to keep making him stronger, not that Vegeta was superior or on par with him.
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    Dragon Ball Super Strength Checker (Viz Manga)

    Yes, they did. It's obvious, my boy.
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    Dragon Ball Super Strength Checker (Viz Manga)

    Doubtful. Vegeta was completely unable to keep up beforehand, whereas now he's able to defend himself just in Red while he's able to beat around Goku Black with Blue.
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    Dragon Ball Super Strength Checker (Viz Manga)

    I don't know how I could've missed that. My bad. Added. Wait, looks like I did add it, but I put it under Super Saiyan 3 because he transforms right after, but looking at it now it can go under both.
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    Dragon Ball Super Strength Checker (Viz Manga)

    Everything but chapter 21 is up to date at last.
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