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Freeza shows the same kind of stuff with his eyes, is he using Kk as well?

AT doesn't give clues, he spells things out for you. Can you name another example when there's been a sneaky 2x boost applied that no one knew about?

Kaioken wouldn't be introduced without telling anyone. AT isn't going to sneak in Kaioken without anyone knowing here brother.

This is literally the flight aura arc. Goku didn't use Kaioken.

Why would Tao win? Because a couple people overhyped his legend?

Nah, this is too close. C'mon now. You would never ever ever ever come up with numbers like this if not for the 3 million number, so stop.

I don't see it that way. Super Saiyan 3 should be exponentially above Super Saiyan 2.

Yeah it does fit so nicely, but what about Ssj3?

Ssj2 Gohan 100 PC 50 Ssj Gohan 20 It definitely can work for sure And making Base Gotenks as strong as possible is indeed a priority.

Yeah I was thinking that would make it super clean. 4x fits so perfect though so it’s kind of tough to go against it. And the idea of a Super Saiyan 3 being a Super Saiyan gone Super Saiyan sounds cool.

That might be the best approach. What about the Oozaru montage for Super Saiyan 3 in the anime? Isn’t 10x a nice clean number? 8x is pretty awkward.

If Super Saiyan 2 is a 4-5x boost, do you think Super Saiyan 3 should still be double it? I think there’s significant evidence to suggest that the one thing the SEG got right was that Super Saiyan 3 was double Super Saiyan 2. It feels like it should be dramatically superior and Super seems to...

Exactly

Where are Kaioshin and Badibis opinions complete opposites? I’m closer than ever to solidifying the narrative numerically so this is a crucial time to test for inadequate logic. You seem to be the one debating me more than anyone on the topic, if you don’t enjoy the subject, you don’t have to...

Well this is one of the most underrated characters in the entire series and the Buu Saga literally does not make sense when interpreted the way most people do. I’m all about being accurate and finding the truth. The truth hurts here unfortunately, but this the most logical option.

That’s generally the idea but it could also be taken as the Saiyans as well based on the other data we have.

There’s cash prizes for the top 5 spots, Goku is assured the top spot and Gohan can get third potentially.

It was a good argument. Vegeta having a 1.33x amp on Earth and Namek seems good.

You seem to be very resistant to the fundamental logic being outlined here. Kaioshin is not even a thought, he cannot be close to Expected Saiyans. He wants to spar with Goku but doesn’t think he’d have a chance. He doesn’t think he rivals Goku he thinks Goku is far stronger. Pui Pui is...

I think in Japanese culture those numbers are seen as infinitely apart like a tremendous disparity.