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  1. FeatsofPower

    What's the power difference between Pui and Vegeta?

    Vegeta needs to use a power that greatly exceeds Kaioshin's own power for Kaioshin to be impressed since Kaioshin already expects them to be more powerful than himself.
  2. FeatsofPower

    What's the power difference between Pui and Vegeta?

    If Vegeta defeated Raditz with a power level of 18,000 would Kaioshin be impressed?
  3. FeatsofPower

    Base Vegeta (Cell Games) vs Piccolo (Cell Games)

    He forgot about Ssj2 in the Buu Sgaa
  4. FeatsofPower

    What's the power difference between Pui and Vegeta?

    Exactly. Why would Vegeta use 800 on someone who is 10?
  5. FeatsofPower

    Base Vegeta (Cell Games) vs Piccolo (Cell Games)

    It’s still canon.
  6. FeatsofPower

    What's the power difference between Pui and Vegeta?

    Then why doesn’t he think Gohan can beat Dabura?
  7. FeatsofPower

    What's the power difference between Pui and Vegeta?

    No he makes the ever important quote right after Pui Pui’s death. “They’re that strong?”
  8. FeatsofPower

    What's the power difference between Pui and Vegeta?

    Well he doesn’t think Ssj2 Gohan can beat Dabura so he didn’t sense Gohan all that accurately
  9. FeatsofPower

    What's the power difference between Pui and Vegeta?

    Come to think of it, he was hard to hold back. He doesn’t seem to remember sending him all too well, also Kaioshins ki sensing seems wacky. But watching an actual fight is easy.
  10. FeatsofPower

    Base Vegeta (Cell Games) vs Piccolo (Cell Games)

    RoF Base Gohan is way stronger than Piccolo and he’s even weaker than Buu Saga Gohan.
  11. FeatsofPower

    What's the power difference between Pui and Vegeta?

    Kaioshin seems to reveal that he didn’t full sense his power later in the ship. Also he didn’t witness Gohans speed, whereas he fully witnessed what Vegeta could do.
  12. FeatsofPower

    Base Vegeta (Cell Games) vs Piccolo (Cell Games)

    This idea is proven false by the Buu Saga and Super though. That's the entire reason we are discussing this. We had some indirect implications of his strength that get overruled in later sagas.
  13. FeatsofPower

    What's the power difference between Pui and Vegeta?

    No, because then Base Vegeta isn't impressive. Base Vegeta is only impressive because of WHO he beat.
  14. FeatsofPower

    What's the power difference between Pui and Vegeta?

    Did Kaioshin witness Pui Pui vs Vegeta?
  15. FeatsofPower

    What's the power difference between Pui and Vegeta?

    He's not overestimating Pui Pui, he has a better take on Pui Pui's power at the time than Gohan's.
  16. FeatsofPower

    Base Vegeta (Cell Games) vs Piccolo (Cell Games)

    Negative, we are unaware of their base powers. Last we saw Base Trunks was able to kiai Imperfect Cell completely out of the city. The Base powers of the MSSJ fighters is an unknown. We know it's unlikely for Piccolo to be anywhere close to even 50% Goku most likely since a variety of powers...
  17. FeatsofPower

    Base Vegeta (Cell Games) vs Piccolo (Cell Games)

    Nothing suggests any of that would be necessary for someone like Piccolo. They don't even need to do that for Kaioshin, why would they do it for Piccolo?
  18. FeatsofPower

    Base Vegeta (Cell Games) vs Piccolo (Cell Games)

    Do you really think Gohan is asking Vegeta to lose when he's asking him to fight in Base? Why wouldn't Vegeta object completely? He is taken aback, but then goes on to say his advantage remains the same and he will win the tournament. Base Vegeta > All is stated right there. Vegeta knows...
  19. FeatsofPower

    Base Vegeta (Cell Games) vs Piccolo (Cell Games)

    He'd rather RISK losing to Kibito. He doesn't think Kibito is going to beat him, just that he might be a tough competitor, and he can't hold back in a way not to be superhuman. So we know Super Saiyan was never a factor in his thinking. So he cannot be confident in winning the tournament in Base...
  20. FeatsofPower

    What's the power difference between Pui and Vegeta?

    He knows exactly how strong Pui Pui is though. Giving up energy is not possible unless Badibi's men are threats. Would Kaioshin worry about giving up energy to Raditz? Because despite Goku being ok to fight Yakkon, it's still a disadvantage to be fighting in the dark. If there's a choice, they...
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