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Mini Satan and Roshi taking it over the top for me.

18 is a baby but also has baby Maron :king

A couple observations: The power pole is back. I didn't see one SSJ. I wonder if turning them into kids is a way to nerf the characters and send them on more whimsical adventures.

HQ TRAILER: https://x.com/DbsHype/status/1712526011420782657?s=20

New York Comic Con

Leaked trailer. Unfortunately CHUdS are talking through the whole thing but even on mute you get a good look at it. EDIT: Story by AT so this is canon cope and seethe. Looks like all the characters get the chibi treatment not just Goku and Shin. I say fuck it, this franchise needs a change up...

It also keeps Gohan as having continued to train. Its hard to tell when Goku is so much the focus of every arc, but Gohan isn't looked at as a joke or having gotten weaker. He just gets surpassed by Goku and Vegeta, but still commands respect when he decides to fight.

Vegeta vs Baby Gohan and Goten is an underrated fight and low key one of my favorites.

Who wins?

For sure. My opinion on that is based off of my view of the series now after Super and everything else since.

With the benefit of hindsight, I prefer Pan not being a Super Saiyan. For a very long time it was the popular opinion that she should have attained it, but with the way SSJ is thrown around now and how easily its obtained, there's a cheapness to it. Her just being flat out strong make her unique...

I think in theory this is pretty close but Videl has never really showed anything in battle I'd find impressive. Durability maybe? She takes an ass beating almost as well as Vegeta but I'd have to give it to Chi Chi off of body of work.

I don't know if I've brought this up before but the guy who did the music for Fusion Reborn is a Texas State Senator. https://twitter.com/NathanForTexas

I've softened on it now but from the moment Piccolo vs 17 ended up to when Goku fought Cell I did not like. :galu

I didn't like most of the Cell Saga.

Slightly off topic but does anybody remember that weird period when DBZ first came to America and FUNI didn't know how to market it yet so all the toys like Broly and Freeza came with guns and rocket launchers?

I think I do but I was unaware if you actually got it or not. Last I remember you were waiting for it to arrive but that's the last we actually discussed.