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BV takes it easily IMO. SSJ3 Gokhan at most is stronger than Final Form BV.

True that, it's possible for Base Gokhan > Base Vegetto but still SSJ Vegetto > SSJ Gokhan

Well factor in Buu's regen and I think it needs to be more than just 1.2-1.3X Buu's power. Unless Gokhan could get in an amped KHH on Buu or something like that.

Good point. That's what I used to argue back in the day but I think the gap between Gokhan and Buutenks should be bigger. Base Vegetto went SSJ straight away against Buuhan so there's that as well.

Back in the day, I was a firm believer of Base Vegetto ~ Buuhan and that Base Gokhan would be more or less the same power. Looking back, it kinda doesn't make that much sense unless the gap between Buuhan was >>> Buutenks which I doubt. Nowadays, I subscribe to the idea that Gokhan is at least >...

I was 1st/2nd grade in 2002. Yeah, I remember going on those weird fansites that claimed a new DB series would be coming out in like, the following year and it had the "pictures" to prove it. There was so much mystery because we were prone to believing all the nonsense on the web back then. I...

Yep, it was definitely the school playground where we would talk about things like DBAF and how DBGT wasn't actually the end of Dragon Ball. Kinda miss that era. There was so much mystery behind it until Super came out and like, I kinda wish it could have stayed that way lol.

Man I remember in like 2002, 2003, or 2004 (can't remember the exact year) stumbling across the SSJ5 design and being so hyped that a new DB series was in development. I was at the age where I couldn't distinguish or doubt things that were fake on the internet so "DBAF" was a huge rumor among DB...

Oh shit, yeah that's unfortunate. Things are a lot different then they were in the 2013-2014 era. The world is a different place after all. I suspect that's why some members aren't around here I guess?

Baby Vegeta after his first transformation was above SSJ Vegetto, after his 2nd he has to be comfortably above SSJ Vegetto by a significant amount. SSJ4 Goku absoutely wrecked that form of BV so I would say its SSJ4 Goku.

What were these forums like over these years? Did you also take a hiatus?

Sweet! I'll check it out when I got the time. As for me, I plan on (eventually) re-visiting my old fic from way back when and giving it a massive rehaul. Only this time, it won't look like it was written by an 8-year old lmao.

Ahh sweet, good to see those old posts archived. Well, not so much for others but you know what I mean lol. Man good to see you again SSJ. Love to see how a lot of InfinityForum migrated to here.

Even worse is that so many of the posts from like, pre-2018 are gone. So that means I can't re-read all my pitiful flame wars and bad fanfiction from back then. Truly heartbreaking. :(

Yeah, got back on DBZF after so long and like, the latest posts there are from months ago. Shit. We need to bring back 2013-2014 DBZF back from the dead fr.

Noted, also took me a hot minute to realize this site and DBZF are different lmao.

Huh I did? You can DM me about that because I don't remember that.

It's not a matter of if Goku could off Buu as much as it's him having the upper hand in the fight. And he did based on the fight before Vegeta had to step in. I wouldn't use genkai as any sort of argument given Gohan could have wrecked Buu there and then.

Oh yeah about the PM. I'm not interested in joining the Discord but i'll let you know if that changes. Yeah I f'd up dipping from here after 2018. Gotta try being more active and shit.

Stamina drain? SSJ3 isn't exactly the most effective form to use even with a power advantage. And it's not like the gap between the two was such that where Goku could stomp Buu.