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Well, he couldn't draw it as realistically.

Toriyama also stated in an interview that the Nyoibo should extend at least 385,000 Km since it got to the moon, meaning for him the Moon was that far away from Earth in DB.

There's also Roshi looking at the Kikoho's damage in the arena tournament and saying it completely outclasses the KMHMH. I don't think it'd make sense if he were already capable of dishing out attacks that blow up the moon. And I don't think his attack as far back to the 21st Budokai should be...

There's no multiplier for SSj.

Akira Toriyama is a fucking boss. Just like Old Kaioshin.

You know how he is, so why start a thread like this? It's obviously it'd only turn in the same old shit again. A gag or not, you were the one who mentioned Yoshi in the OP. Can't you go on without mentioning him? Just go past discussing past things like this in which it'll only bring unwanted...

You say this, bit you were the one who mentioned Yoshi in the OP and created a whole thread dedicated to name villains of certain times. Couldn't you really see how things would undergo with the current wave of things? Seriously, you lack completely self awareness. Stop with the drama BS. It's...

If it were a power up, I'd make it a 1.2x at most, similar to Piccolo's.

Tenma from Monster

Yeah the original says Cell far surpasses the androids but like Kenshi said it may be in future tense. At least Herms translated that as it was in future. Does Piccolo mention Vegeta specifically being powerless against the androids? Or does Picc mention the situation as a whole? Because in the...

Wasn't he in a tournament setting tho? Hisoka was just fooling around. Btw I re-read the scenes in question. Regarding Hisoka it's interesting to note that the character Hunter applicant that was among them stated even if they had an army backing them up, they wouldn't be able to do anything...

Is there a reason they are guarding their bodies with nen all the time? Hisoka was fighting some scrubs and Netero was having fun with Gon and Killua.

Not expecting it is a reason good enough. You won't mount the best offensive guard when not expecting the attack. Similarly, Hisoka wasn't expecting Gon's attack with the fishing rod. It slightly fazed his face. Barely anything to make Hisoka's power being changed as way bigger afterwards imo.

They clearly had lots of killing to do since they were destroying cities and killing ppl when Trunks appeared. They also got distracted with video games.

Well yeah, but knowing they can heal with senzu it's easier to get since the spy robots got everything, but idk if that would reveal the info they are related to Karin. Plus getting to Karin doesn't automatically get to Kami. And I'd say they are more interested in destroying the cities and...

Well 17 and 18 didn't have a clue on where Goku could be, so they clearly weren't informed well about the locations. If they found there it'd have to be by luck.

Thanks for the welcome, guys. So far I'm enjoying the forum!

Then yeah, like I asked, Goku's speed would be bolstered way up haha

Maybe because the shoes came off unexpectedly whereas Netero was expecting Killua to kick him.

Back then. Doesn't compare to Goten's flying abilities in the Boo Saga, who even used it to rush towards kid Trunks. Doubt Goku could even see it.