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That was in the take the ball scene, didn't seem like an one off scene, specially since Killua almost broke his leg by kicking Netero's.

Wouldn't that mean Goku's speed should go way up tho to compete with Goten's flying abilities?

Eh, I'm a little confused, but ok, nvm

Well Gon could also affect Netero with his sneakers. While that was also in the 1st arc, Netero was always thought to be wayyy above Gon.

Well, Hisoka could have simply not being using nen at that instance, no? He was killing random ppl.

Illumi wanted to take a nap in peace. Hanzo also tried to avoid Hisoka and Illumi more than once iirc. He knew who not to mesh with. Hisoka could have also gotten a little stronger in the meantime. I imagine he trains. Plus, he grew a number on Togashi's chart. @Papasmurf

It may just mean Illumi and Hisoka wanted to have their time and enjoy themselves in the exam a little more.

I don't think it was necessarily an excuse. He faced Kaido... being down for Ling chapters is actually more realistic. It's not like Rebecca and Kyros were always active either. Kyros accomplished his role and then it was all Zoro, Luffy and Law. The characters have their shining moments and...

Weren't Hisoka and Illumi very impressive I'm the exams?

Yeah, so in this scenario would kid Goku be as strong as that Goten? I think it'd work better than bringing Goten to his level.

Vivi's scene was fairly impacting and Rebecca's too but they are the usual OP scenes of character crying and struggling. I could easily point to Kinnemon scene of him struggling in the ground in tears when Kaido crushed him. You don't have to scream for it to be impactful. The scene that Kaido...

Rebecca wasn't all that present in the main conflict of Dressrosa. And Kinnemon did many things, like facing Kaido at first and slightly disturbing him, jokingly and accidentally making all that plan, showing his determination many times, slicing up Kanjuro, being torn apart by Kaido...

I disagree with the notion that the supporting cast was worse worked than in other cases.

Togashi, ofc. Way more appealing story, better sad moments, better fights and less clichê story structure.

I read it carefully. You mentioned Vivi had an emotional impact over the crew ever since her inception and I pointed that out.

Kinemon was the heart of the scabbards in the story and he had a very strong connection to the crew ever since Punk Hazard and their introductory conflict to Kaido. We got a flashback flashing them all up and the cat and dog actually defeated one of Kaido's commanders. Kinemon was in charge of...

Just praise SSJ2's golfing skills and you'll be halfway there :king

@Spiral-Force How would be Goten's ability to fly? Because if he's to fight in the same conditions as Goku, shouldn't his flying ability be very limited due to lack of chi?

This is one thing I dislike. We didn't see Shanks acting for hundreds of chapters and God knows how many years. How are we supposed to care for a character we only see from years to years?

Because it seems to be using faulty reasoning.