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So on a Monday, Goku can make a Kamehameha with a total of 10,000 and Tuesday, it’s only 5,000?

Yakkon must be around 3x Pui Pui. Babidi recognizes Pui Pui could do nothing to Vegeta. Pui Pui 1,500 Estimated Saiyans 2,250 And then they call for Yakkon who is way stronger than what they needed to defeat 3 of them, which would be... Around 3,500 would be an adequate power for having a...

Just trying out GSM's logic, typical gag logic stuff. Base Gotenks is a gag and hand waving it essentially.

Don't you go by Kamehameha at 2.22x?

I take issue with Light Grenade being reduced to a 1.6x multiplier. What's up with that brah

This ain’t it though brother

Didn’t catch that nice

No

So Buuhan > Base Gokan?

Base Vegetto isn’t even there for more than second, how do you know the quote is form specific

I'm not entirely sure as of now. It might be best to keep Gogeta = Vegetto with the newer logic present nowadays. Elder Kai's language seems to imply Potara would be more effective power wise, not just time wise, but overall, it's tough. I'd have to think if Potara is better, it incorporates...

Well that's why I brought up that if we are talking about Post Zeta Gohan, this idea of the rivals boost slinging Vegetto forward just a bit doesn't seem like a hard sell. Vegeta 50 Goku 50 Gohan 100 Gokan 4,500 Vegetto...

Exactly. The Vegetto vs Gokan thing has always been up for debate. It's been a more or less 50/50 issue. Pick a side and let it ride.

Alright, I have my Freeza to Buu Saga numbers all complete except for this one area. I've made some major adjustments to how strong the Buu Saga Base Saiyans are, so now I have so much room for this saga I'm unsure of what to do with it. We've always had to squeeze things to try to make the...

Vegetto is the strongest fusion. Elder Kai implies this and a lot of the fandom agrees with it. Most likely the fusion between Goku and Gohan is based on their base powers. I'd assume it's really Post Zeta Sword Gohan and Goku fusing, granting them a base power above even Buutenks. Considering...

Yes, those are manga only numbers. Vegetto > Gokan, the fusion of two of the three masters in this world and the next plus a rivals boost is definitely what's strongest.

CG Vegeta 100 CG Goku 150 Teen Gohan 150 Buu Vegeta 200 Kid Gohan 225 Buu Goku 250

Super Buu 200 Gotenks 200 Buff Buu 250 Gohan 300 Buutenks 400 Gokan 450 Buuhan 500 Vegetto 500

Kaioshin's energy cannot be used. Neither can Kibitos. Kaioshin seems to confirm quite a lot of Badibi and Dabura's thinking. It's not a perfect representation, but it's clear that Babidi, Dabura, and Kaioshin all generally agree on most things, and the Saiyans have a completely different...

It's significant enough to where he is upset 20 absorbed it, which allowed him to significantly surpass 19, and allowed Gero to use his speed to escape from Vegeta.