Android 18 vs. SSj Vegeta + SSj Trunks + Piccolo

[Diamond Ryan]

Who wins here?

 

[Animelover5487]

Seeing as Gohan and Kuririn were enough help for Vegeta to defeat First Form Freeza and a hypothetical second form, coupled #17's statement I'd say the team wins.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Seeing as Gohan and Kuririn were enough help for Vegeta to defeat First Form Freeza and a hypothetical second form, coupled #17's statement I'd say the team wins.

Do you think that the team could defeat 17?

 

[Flame]

Even together they don't stand a chance against 18.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

#17 seemed somewhat unwilling to let the Z-Senshi interfere, which suggests to me the team may be able to pull off a win with extreme diff, though if they don't attack her simultaneously, #18 could quickly pick them apart.

 

[Animelover5487]

Seeing as Gohan and Kuririn were enough help for Vegeta to defeat First Form Freeza and a hypothetical second form, coupled #17's statement I'd say the team wins.

Do you think that the team could defeat 17?

Probably not, #17 might not be much stronger than 18 but he has enough of an edge over her to defeat people who could barely beat her together. #17's infinite stamina would also play a big role in his victory.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

No, i don't think so.

 

[Future Warrior]

Probably the team takes it

 

[Pyro]

The team would get destroyed. Piccolo is nothing but trash. Trunks got two-shotted so he'd be down quickly. Vegeta would last the longest but still get owned.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Imo the team will get crushed. I think 17 was simply being cautious, because he had no idea if his data on them was accurate or not.

 

[Pyro]

I really don't understand why Toriyama put that statement in there. Clearly 18 wasn't having her hands full with Vegeta, and he was the strongest of the bunch. Piccolo showed he was completely incapable of even landing a hit on 17, who isn't much stronger than 18. Trunks admittedly got smacked from behind by 17, but even his direct sword slash was easily blocked and he was tossed into Vegeta, which fucking knocked him out. Three "Super Saiyan tier" players were handled without so much as an angry grunt from one of the androids. We saw later during the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai what 18 looks like when she's under pressure and scared, and she showed nothing resembling that sort of emotion when fighting Vegeta. At most, someone could argue she and Vegeta aren't terribly far apart due to a certain emphasis being placed on 18 "slowly pushing [Vegeta] back" because of his draining stamina, but that's about it. She still tanked one of his huge blasts with cosmetic damage at worst, and proceeded to tear him down like he was a sack of shit. He lasted a lot longer than Trunks, despite the two being in the same league, but that probably speaks more for Vegeta's durability than a big gap between them.

So, yeah, I don't think 17's statement holds a lot of weight when the fights themselves show the androids critically overpower the Z-Fighters.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Plus it is possible 17 didn't know exactly how strong 18 was. 18 actually asked 16 if 17 was holding back against Cell.

Chapter: 370 (DBZ 176), P5.2
Context: as No.17 and Piccolo fight Cell
No.18: “…Are No.17 and this guy who looks like Piccolo holding back?”
No.16: “No. This ‘Cell’ guy is too powerful.”

 

[Papasmurf]

17 doesn't object to being lumped in with 18, he just denies anyone could possibly rival him, so I doubt he was really unaware. Probably just thinking everyone's power was off the charts like Vegeta, even :Krillin and T1en

 

[Pyro]

Weird how she'd ask that. You would think she'd know how powerful 17 was. She seemed to know he was stronger than her by her not even challenging 17's claims of being the strongest in the universe. It's understandable they didn't know 16's strength since he was locked away for good, but they should've known about each other, at least.