Beerus vs Super Vegetto

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Beerus cannot go higher than 10%.
 

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Beerus still finger flicks. From what we know, at least anime-wise, 10% Beerus still ranks above SSB Goku/Vegeta. If we limit him to the false "10%" he used against enraged Vegeta, he still wins without effort. I support the idea that Goku had SS3 Vegetto in mind when saying fusion wouldn't beat Beerus, and based on the next episode preview of the one in which Vegeta became enraged, Goku shouldn't have been able to estimate Beerus' strength was anywhere near that high. That, and placing Initial Beerus as high as possible makes his universe level feat far easier to take in without bloating the battle powers ridiculously high.
 

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Pre Retcon Beerus gets good training from this fight.
Post Retcon Beerus casually wins against Super Vegetto. lol
 

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It seems crazy, but SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta aren't even over 10% of Beerus' strength yet, so there's no way in h3ll that even SS3 Vegetto would win.
 

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OmegaZ said:
It seems crazy, but SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta aren't even over 10% of Beerus' strength yet, so there's no way in h3ll that even SS3 Vegetto would win.

Yeah, it's crazy because it's not even implied to be true, the opposite is actually implies as seen by these pics. Note: The comments in Super where made when Goku was using kaio-ken ×2 and not kaio-ken ×10 yet. lol
 

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And that was blatantly contradicted by Champa's confidence in eliminating all the U6 fighters at once, despite Hit being very close to Kaioken x10 Goku's power.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
And that was blatantly contradicted by Champa's confidence in eliminating all the U6 fighters at once, despite Hit being very close to Kaioken x10 Goku's power.

Yet Champa cowered in fear when Goku and Hit glanced over at Champa. Champa about to eliminate the U6 fighters is a bad point to use. Hit accepted his fate and had no reason to fight against Champa. Champa could be millions of times weaker or stronger than Hit and the same thing would have happened.
 

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Of course Champa would be intimidated by both Hit and Goku, as their combined power would definitely be enough to take him down. Individually though, that's a different story.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Of course Champa would be intimidated by both Hit and Goku, as their combined power would definitely be enough to take him down. Individually though, that's a different story.

Yeah, but I still don't see why Champa threatening them all instantly means he is stronger than all of them combined. But it's not that I'm disagreeing with you, ik that Champa is stronger than them all. I just don't think that is the best point to use is all.
 

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OmegaZ said:
It seems crazy, but SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta aren't even over 10% of Beerus' strength yet, so there's no way in h3ll that even SS3 Vegetto would win.

Yeah, it's crazy because it's not even implied to be true, the opposite is actually implies as seen by these pics. Note: The comments in Super where made when Goku was using kaio-ken ×2 and not kaio-ken ×10 yet. lol
That's a good point, but that can be chalked up to Beerus being flabbergasted that Goku has a technique like that in the first place. However when Champa was talking about killing everybody on the U6 side, and instead of trying to fight back, they were just sh1tting their pants, even Hit, who wasn't obligated not to kill by any rules, and he was fighting evenly with SSBKKx10 Goku.
(even without his fabled killing techniques).
So that makes a chain: Beerus>Champa>Hit(w/killing techniques)>Hit=SSBKKx10 Goku
What say you to that?
 

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I see something like Hit (Anime) = Hit (Manga / FP) >>> Hit (Manga / Initial).

Hit in the anime does not increase his power, but his technique increases the jump in time.

Champa also seemed committed to eliminate all but possibly he saw Goku SSJB Kaioken x10 + Hit (With killer techniques) as a possible threat to the future, but still could defeat them.

I've this:

Beerus> Champa> / >> Goku SSJB Kaioken x10 + Hit (With killer techniques) >>> Goku SSJB Kaioken x10 = Hit (With killer techniques) >>>>>>>>>> Goku / Vegeta SSJB (Universal tournament)> Hit> = Golden Frieza.
 

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10% Beerus >>> SSJG Goku >>> SSJ3 Vegito (pre-God)

Beerus godstomps.
 
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