Broly, Beerus, and the U7 Saiyans

Pyro

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Let's assume Base Gogeta is stronger than or at the very least equal to SSJB Goku and Vegeta, for simplicity's sake. Let's also assume that LSSJ Broly is somewhat stronger than or at the very least equal to Beerus, and that SSJB Gogeta had a moderate stomping gap over this Broly.

How big does that make the gap between Beerus and the Saiyans for you? Is it what you thought it was before the Broly movie came out, or much bigger, or much smaller?

Additionally, where do you see Gogeta's other transformations in relation to the Tournament of Power? Super Saiyan 1 through God.

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This is a lot to unpack, so we'll table it for now. Finish your current tasks. Report back tomorrow morning.
 

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I didn't think it'd be this big. There still is a huge gap between Bills and Goku/Vegeta.
 

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Anime-wise, it doesn't really change anything. The SSJ multiplier definitely isn't as large as the "several-dozens of times" statement from Gowasu would suggest with how Base Vegeta was treat as somewhat relevant to Frost or Base Goku having the reactions to dodge attacks from SS2 Caulifla. Considering how big the gap between FP Jiren and SSB Goku already was, the Broly film doesn't change anything.

Manga-wise, it'd be a similar case, since it was made apparent SSB Vegetto was barely superior to Beerus and that his Base self was at least above SSB Goku/Vegeta.

As far as comparing Gogeta's forms to ToP competitors, depends if we're talking manga or anime.
Anime-wise, treating Base Gogeta = SSB Goku for simplicity, he'd obviously stomp anyone of SSB tier with SSJ, could probably beat Anilaza with either SS2 or 3 and would need no less than SSG to contend with the upper-high/top tiers (ie. anyone of Initial SSBE Vegeta/KKX20 SSB Goku's level and above).

Manga-wise, he'd probably rank somewhat inferior to Vegetto in equal forms and we can assume he used PSSB against Broly as that seems to have become the default SSB as of the ToP. I'd also say the multipliers for him and Vegetto would probably be pretty nerfed as we aren't given the impression of the gap between Jiren and PSSB Goku being anywhere as great as their anime counterparts, plus limiting it as much as possible makes Jiren losing so much power from about a minute or so of fighting UI Goku that Base Saiyans could contend with him a little less ridiculous. That said, he could probably contend with Peak Gohan/SSJ Kefla with SSJ, be close to SSBE Vegeta's level with SS2, be trash to Jiren's full power with SS3 but might give him a lot of trouble with SSG.
 
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