Cell, not Freeza, is the biggest piece of shit in all of Dragon Ball.

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Yes, I know Freeza was monstrous but Cell was an actual monster. At first I considered they pretty much equal in terms of nastiness... both unrepentant, evil bastards who managed to push two of the most good-natured characters (Goku and Gohan) to their limits. However there is something that sets them apart...

Freeza was power-hungry but he enjoyed his powers more for what it gave him in return (wealth, fame, greed) and loved his papa while Cell only wanted power for power's sake and had nobody (he respected Gero but only because he created him). Also unlike Freeza, Cell had no long-term goals.. Cell wasn't a mindless killing machine like Majin Boo... he was well aware of what he's doing is wrong but he does it anyways because he could. He just wants to see the world burn.

Heck, the whole reason he announced the Cell Games was to spread terror and the human Z-Warriors (and Trunks) were even flipping him off:

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If you get to know Cell he is a really nice guy. He never knew his mother and his father is a sociopath. Just give Cell a couple of centuries to get that fighting everyone thing out of his system then he'll be chill.
 

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I doubt Freeza loved his papa. Freeza was beyond redemption, since, even after being spared AND saved
by Goku, he still hated the Saiyan.
Cell, on the other hand, could, imo, change if Goku tried to talk him out of his ways. I mean, he loved
fights. Goku could've said something ''Hey, Cell, why don't you quit this bs about destroying Earth and
stay here with us? We can fight every day and have fun with the others''. It was at least worth a try.
 

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withheldforprivacy said:
I doubt Freeza loved his papa. Freeza was beyond redemption, since, even after being spared AND saved
by Goku, he still hated the Saiyan.
Cell, on the other hand, could, imo, change if Goku tried to talk him out of his ways. I mean, he loved
fights. Goku could've said something ''Hey, Cell, why don't you quit this bs about destroying Earth and
stay here with us? We can fight every day and have fun with the others''. It was at least worth a try.
Lol! :ladd

On the topic, there's no debate on who is the biggest piece of shit between them. It's Freeza.
 

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They are both saints, now let that villain alone!
 

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Both of them are saints compared to Zamasu. At least Frieza and Cell had the (admittedly flimsy) excuse of being born/created that way. Zamasu, on the other hand, is basically the Dragon Ball version of Satan.
 

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^This

Venti is already one of the top db8rs here already. Lol
 

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Fearless Hit said:
Zamasu isn't just a killing machine like Boo or Cell. He has his own reasons why he's evil.

If it was a selfless motive, I would have agreed. But his motive for killing everyone, including his own master (twice) and his own race, was that he lost to Goku in a sparring match. Yeah, no ! He's a petty, hypocritical and sadistic narcissist who committed all of these atrocities because of a bruised ego.

Plus, Zamasu is a much worse killing machine than every villain in Dragon Ball put together: the guy tried to kill every single one being in the multiverse. Not universe. Multiverse ! In episode 67, he would have done so to every other timelines if it wasn't for Zen'O.
 

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Venato said:
Fearless Hit said:
Zamasu isn't just a killing machine like Boo or Cell. He has his own reasons why he's evil.

If it was a selfless motive, I would have agreed. But his motive for killing everyone, including his own master (twice) and his own race, was that he lost to Goku in a sparring match. Yeah, no ! He's a petty, hypocritical and sadistic narcissist who committed all of these atrocities because of a bruised ego.

Plus, Zamasu is a much worse killing machine than every villain in Dragon Ball put together: the guy tried to kill every single one being in the multiverse. Not universe. Multiverse ! In episode 67, he would have done so to every other timelines if it wasn't for Zen'O.
When I said a "killing machine", I saw talking about the way they were designed like Cell who was designed to kill Goku, Boo was designed to destroy the universe and the Kaioshins. Zamasu killed his master was because he wants to replace him and take the ring in order to travel between timelines. I agree with the most of the part.
 

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Fearless Hit said:
Venato said:
Fearless Hit said:
Zamasu isn't just a killing machine like Boo or Cell. He has his own reasons why he's evil.

If it was a selfless motive, I would have agreed. But his motive for killing everyone, including his own master (twice) and his own race, was that he lost to Goku in a sparring match. Yeah, no ! He's a petty, hypocritical and sadistic narcissist who committed all of these atrocities because of a bruised ego.

Plus, Zamasu is a much worse killing machine than every villain in Dragon Ball put together: the guy tried to kill every single one being in the multiverse. Not universe. Multiverse ! In episode 67, he would have done so to every other timelines if it wasn't for Zen'O.
When I said a "killing machine", I saw talking about the way they were designed like Cell who was designed to kill Goku, Boo was designed to destroy the universe and the Kaioshins.

And that is why I consider Zamasu to be more evil. Cell and Boo at least had the excuse to be created that way. Zamasu wasn't. Quite the opposite in fact: he was supposed to be a good guy, because he is a Kai. He is supposed to be the one guiding the mortals, and protecting them from monsters like King Kai did. Instead, he was the monster.

Zamasu deliberately chose to go against his role to do evil actions, which is what make him stand out compared to the others villains.

Zamasu killed his master was because he wants to replace him and take the ring in order to travel between timelines.

I know, but this action was still inexcusable. Gowasu cared about him. He took him to be a Supreme Kai, because he had seen something in Zamasu. He had confidence that he could have become a good Supreme Kai. And he got backstabbed for trusting him, literally.

Moreover, even if he did that to start his Zero Mortal Plan (which isn't a good reason at all, considering it involves everyone's deaths), it's not like Zamasu had any remorse for that action. He murdered him with a smile on his face, happily murdered him a second time (Future Gowasu) and would have a third time if Goku and Vegeta didn't protected him.

No, Cell and Boo still lose to Zamasu imo.
 

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^I'm impressed with your reasoning Venti.

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Fearless Hit said:
Zamasu isn't just a killing machine like Boo or Cell. He has his own reasons why he's evil.
Cell wasn't programmed to be a killing machine. He was made to be a failure-proof weapon to fulfill Dr. Gero's ambitions... which he considered trivial.

At most, he was programmed to absorb the androids and kill Goku (which he didn't particularly care for)... but everything else is on him.
 

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DBZAOTA482 said:
Fearless Hit said:
Zamasu isn't just a killing machine like Boo or Cell. He has his own reasons why he's evil.
Cell wasn't programmed to be a killing machine. He was made to be a failure-proof weapon to fulfill Dr. Gero's ambitions... which he considered trivial.

At most, he was programmed to absorb the androids and kill Goku (which he didn't particularly care for)... but everything else is on him.

In fact, he could even have ignored his program altogether. The androids showed that they had the ability to do so. There is no reason to assume that Cell would be any different. Everything Cell did was on him.
 

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Keedounan is like one of the masters these days. Not many people can argue his points.

Cell WAS created to do what he did, but it was still his choice. He took it a step further anyway once he decided he would go beyond Earth and Goku's destruction as SPC...

Cell wanted to be the universes end, Freeza wanted to rule over it. Buu destroyed flat out, but mindlessly, initially, until shit got muddled.
 

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Eh....it's honestly kind of hard for me to choose who was eviler between Cell and Frieza.

Frieza
- Ran a galactic empire for decades purging planets of life and selling them to the highest bidder
- Committed genocide on a regular basis more than likely
- Wasted his own underlings if they failed him or just because he could
- Said underlings were more than likely slaves
- Very openly racist
- Showed no mercy to anyone, even if he got what he wanted he'd just kill said person/group anyway, he was going to destroy Namek even if he got immortality.
- Rather than simply just killing Vegeta when he very easily could've opted to just beat the daylights out of him JUST to rub that fact that he wasn't a Super Saiyan in his face all the while torturing psychologically
- Slowly tried to crush a 5yr old boy's skull
- Blew up Krilling with sadistic glee
- More than likely would kick puppies and eat babies if given the chance

The list goes on.

Cell
- Killed thousands of people (Women and children included) just for the sake of power or a snack since he's always on the move
- Killed thousands of people without a care in the world JUST to find Android 18 when she was hiding from him
- Once he got what he wanted, he planned on destroying the Earth after hunting down it's inhabitants one by one JUST to see the look of terror on their faces before killing them
- Planned on going from one planet to another and repeating the process effectively wanting to end all life in the universe since he wanted to destroying everything that "Isn't perfect" or in other words everything that isn't himself.

Cell had eviler intentions, but it seems like Frieza was the bigger scumbag by a mile.
 
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