Did Gohan improve from his pre-Budokai training?

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Do you think Gohan got stronger from training pre-25th?
 

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I think he obviously did, but not by an outstanding amount. I think he got in better shape too, although still below that of the Cell Games.
 

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He definitely improved to a certain extent. Just not enough. He should've trained with Vegeta.
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
He definitely improved to a certain extent. Just not enough. He should've trained with Vegeta.

There are people who think Gohan improved by many times in this month of training just so they could still have the kids below then adults at the 25th Budokai by a large amount and yet have Goten ~ Gohan 1 month before the Tournament. What do you think?
 

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Yeah, I've seen that one. If Gohan and Goten were comparable a month prior and sparred together, logically Goten would've improved at the same rate as Gohan. There's no reason to give Gohan an absurd power-up there and widen the difference between him and Goten.

A lot of people just hate the kids, lol.
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
Yeah, I've seen that one. If Gohan and Goten were comparable a month prior and sparred together, logically Goten would've improved at the same rate as Gohan. There's no reason to give Gohan an absurd power-up there and widen the difference between him and Goten.

A lot of people just hate the kids, lol.
Yeah, but they argue that Gohan would get stronger way faster because he already had that power prior to the Budokai, so regaining it would be way easier than someone who didn't have that power to begin with.
 

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Goten and Trunks were able to get close to Gohan simply by play fighting. By logic, Goten should be able to improve at an even higher rate sparring with Gohan considering he's stronger. I don't think Gohan is many times weaker, anyway. Vegeta was the only one who noticed his dip in power when he became Super Saiyan 2. The way he reacted was almost like he was surprised, which wouldn't be the case if Super Saiyan Gohan was already shown to be much weaker. Goku couldn't even tell if Gohan's power went down or not.
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
Goten and Trunks were able to get close to Gohan simply by play fighting. By logic, Goten should be able to improve at an even higher rate sparring with Gohan considering he's stronger. I don't think Gohan is many times weaker, anyway. Vegeta was the only one who noticed his dip in power when he became Super Saiyan 2. The way he reacted was almost like he was surprised, which wouldn't be the case if Super Saiyan Gohan was already shown to be much weaker. Goku couldn't even tell if Gohan's power went down or not.
He'd be many times weaker prior to the Budokai training.
 

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Eh, I still don't think his improvement was that drastic.

One could just say there was no such statement on his power changing that much, so there's no reason to assume it did.

Not much proof either way.
 

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He probably sharpened his battle senses slightly, but as for an increase in Ki, no since there's no evidence to support it.
 

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But wouldn't the evidence simply be that he trained? Trunks stated that sparring results in gainz.
 

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Would it really make much of a difference if he powered-up a ton or not, though?

Gohan seems to be equally useless pre and post Budokai.
 

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Absolutely nothing implies he improved. Maybe a tiny bit, but the training was more about sharpening skills. Goten was throwing rocks at him to sharpen his reflexes, after all.
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
Would it really make much of a difference if he powered-up a ton or not, though?

Gohan seems to be equally useless pre and post Budokai.

No no, I just want general opinions on if people think he did or not. I don't care by how much or whatnot.
 

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GreatSaiyaman123 said:
Absolutely nothing implies he improved. Maybe a tiny bit, but the training was more about sharpening skills. Goten was throwing rocks at him to sharpen his reflexes, after all.

But they were sparring too.
 

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I think he did by a moderate amount. 1.1~1.2x is what I'd go with.
 

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I agree with that ahill. I think with one month of training with some sparring thrown in, that seems fair.
 
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