- Joined
- Mar 9, 2022
- Messages
- 1,452
Kaioken x20 Goku vs 50% Freeza:
Both are supposed to have the same ki, however, Freeza shows to be able to stop Goku's Kamehameha with just one hand, of course, Goku had a great strain due to not being able to resist Kaioken x20, but he also got shocked by this:
Vegeta vs Perfect Cell:
Chapter: 382 (DBZ 188), P11.1-4
No.16: "Cell really did get considerably stronger...But Vegeta's still better than him at everything."
Vegeta: "Damn you. You're not taking this seriously."
Cell: "I told you I was warming-up."
Cell seems to emit a ki that is less powerful than Vegeta's, even though, his performance makes the case that he is actually outclassing Vegeta. The reason I decide to omit Vegeta's comment about Cell not looking like anything special is due to on my own consideration, he's just basing on appearance to determine what he claims and not in his actual ki.
But one thing that can perhaps counter this argument is that Krillin explicitely tell that they can't go by the ki Cell is emitting at that point, even though, Krillin seems to be judging also his hidden potential.
Piccolo vs Freeza:
Chapter: 300 (DBZ 106), P2.1-3
Context: after Vegeta calls Piccolo useless trash
Piccolo: "Sorry I'm such trash. But remember this...After I take care of Freeza, it will be your turn next..."
Kuririn: "It's no use...No matter how much Piccolo may have trained at Lord Kaio's, Freeza's in an entirely different dimension..."
Back on Namek, neither Vegeta or Krillin seems to have confidence on Piccolo's capabilities when it comes to the idea of him defeating Freeza, even though, in his actual performance, he could take advantage of the tyrant.
However, once the fight, keep going, we realized that Piccolo was actually stronger, something which is pointed out by Vegeta's correction to Krillin:
Chapter: 301 (DBZ 107), P2.2-3
Kuririn: "In-incredible he's fighting evenly with Freeza..."
Vegeta: "No...no...He's more than [even]..."
Another example that may come to mind is Piccolo vs Gero, in which Trunks describes' Piccolo's ki as just a "battle ki", which tell us that he doesn't emit that powerful of a ki:
Even though, this same Piccolo shows incredible feats of strength:
Well, I would like to know your opinions on this topic, do you agree with this? Do you disagree with me? It would be a pleasure to read you, as was mine if I entertained you while you were reading this thread, hope that was the case.
Both are supposed to have the same ki, however, Freeza shows to be able to stop Goku's Kamehameha with just one hand, of course, Goku had a great strain due to not being able to resist Kaioken x20, but he also got shocked by this:
Vegeta vs Perfect Cell:
Chapter: 382 (DBZ 188), P11.1-4
No.16: "Cell really did get considerably stronger...But Vegeta's still better than him at everything."
Vegeta: "Damn you. You're not taking this seriously."
Cell: "I told you I was warming-up."
Cell seems to emit a ki that is less powerful than Vegeta's, even though, his performance makes the case that he is actually outclassing Vegeta. The reason I decide to omit Vegeta's comment about Cell not looking like anything special is due to on my own consideration, he's just basing on appearance to determine what he claims and not in his actual ki.
But one thing that can perhaps counter this argument is that Krillin explicitely tell that they can't go by the ki Cell is emitting at that point, even though, Krillin seems to be judging also his hidden potential.
Piccolo vs Freeza:
Chapter: 300 (DBZ 106), P2.1-3
Context: after Vegeta calls Piccolo useless trash
Piccolo: "Sorry I'm such trash. But remember this...After I take care of Freeza, it will be your turn next..."
Kuririn: "It's no use...No matter how much Piccolo may have trained at Lord Kaio's, Freeza's in an entirely different dimension..."
Back on Namek, neither Vegeta or Krillin seems to have confidence on Piccolo's capabilities when it comes to the idea of him defeating Freeza, even though, in his actual performance, he could take advantage of the tyrant.
However, once the fight, keep going, we realized that Piccolo was actually stronger, something which is pointed out by Vegeta's correction to Krillin:
Chapter: 301 (DBZ 107), P2.2-3
Kuririn: "In-incredible he's fighting evenly with Freeza..."
Vegeta: "No...no...He's more than [even]..."
Another example that may come to mind is Piccolo vs Gero, in which Trunks describes' Piccolo's ki as just a "battle ki", which tell us that he doesn't emit that powerful of a ki:
Even though, this same Piccolo shows incredible feats of strength:
Well, I would like to know your opinions on this topic, do you agree with this? Do you disagree with me? It would be a pleasure to read you, as was mine if I entertained you while you were reading this thread, hope that was the case.
Last edited: