Frieza and Cell VS Goku Black and Future Zamasu

[Keedounan]

Conditions:
* Equal physical condition (strength, speed, durability etc...)
* Everyone is at their best form.
* Immortality is restricted.
* Abilities from both anime and manga are allowed.

Round 1: no knowledge
Round 2: with knowledge

 

[Papasmurf]

If this is 100% Namek Freeza or Golden Freeza (which I assume he is going by "best form"), his team loses on account of the fact that his ki drain is so bad he can't even defeat a moderately weaker opponent. It may be extremely hard to destroy Cell at equal powers, but a team surely could do so if they outlast Freeza which they more than likely can.

 

[Keedounan]

If this is 100% Namek Freeza or Golden Freeza (which I assume he is going by "best form"), his team loses on account of the fact that his ki drain is so bad he can't even defeat a moderately weaker opponent. It may be extremely hard to destroy Cell at equal powers, but a team surely could do so if they outlast Freeza which they more than likely can.

I did said that they have the same physical condition, which means no stamina drain.

 

[freezamite]

If this is 100% Namek Freeza or Golden Freeza (which I assume he is going by "best form"), his team loses on account of the fact that his ki drain is so bad he can't even defeat a moderately weaker opponent. It may be extremely hard to destroy Cell at equal powers, but a team surely could do so if they outlast Freeza which they more than likely can.

I did said that they have the same physical condition, which means no stamina drain.

In those conditions, Freezer and Cell take it.
Both have much more powerful techniques than Black (Goku) or Zamatsu (assuming Zamatsu doesn't have immortality).

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Wrong section.

Me and my future counterpart can definitely win this fight, they're like 17/18 that has a perfect style.

 

[Keedounan]

If this is 100% Namek Freeza or Golden Freeza (which I assume he is going by "best form"), his team loses on account of the fact that his ki drain is so bad he can't even defeat a moderately weaker opponent. It may be extremely hard to destroy Cell at equal powers, but a team surely could do so if they outlast Freeza which they more than likely can.

I did said that they have the same physical condition, which means no stamina drain.

In those conditions, Freezer and Cell take it.
Both have much more powerful techniques than Black (Goku) or Zamatsu (assuming Zamatsu doesn't have immortality).

Which techniques are that powerful ? Besides, the gap wouldn't be much since Zamasu has access to the same techniques as Kibitoshin

 

[freezamite]

I did said that they have the same physical condition, which means no stamina drain.

In those conditions, Freezer and Cell take it.
Both have much more powerful techniques than Black (Goku) or Zamatsu (assuming Zamatsu doesn't have immortality).

Which techniques are that powerful ? Besides, the gap wouldn't be much since Zamasu has access to the same techniques as Kibitoshin

Well, Freezer has his teleckinetick powers and some cool techniques like the one he used to defeat SSJ Goku's kamehame and also the ability to breath in space (something he is aware of and takes advantage every time he can) and Cell has everything Freezer has plus his regeneration.
Maybe not "techniques" but abilities or small haxes that, when equalled in terms of physical strength, would give them the advantage.

 

[Keedounan]

In those conditions, Freezer and Cell take it.
Both have much more powerful techniques than Black (Goku) or Zamatsu (assuming Zamatsu doesn't have immortality).

Which techniques are that powerful ? Besides, the gap wouldn't be much since Zamasu has access to the same techniques as Kibitoshin

Well, Freezer has his teleckinetick powers

Future Zamasu (manga) has all of Kibitoshin's techniques, which include telekinetic powers and healing others.

some cool techniques like the one he used to defeat SSJ Goku's kamehame

Fair enough, though Goku might have improved the Kamehameha over time.

and also the ability to breath in space (something he is aware of and takes advantage every time he can)

All gods have this ability, though Goku Black could have lost it since he doesn't have his godly body. Oh, and they have no right to blow up the planet. They should fight fairly.

and Cell has everything Freezer has plus his regeneration.
Maybe not "techniques" but abilities or small haxes that, when equalled in terms of physical strength, would give them the advantage.

Goku Black and Future Zamasu have some advantages on their own. In addition to the godly ki (preventing them from being sensed, which is great for sneak attacks), they literally have the same mind, making it an effective duo. Although Freeza and Cell have powerful abilities, I doubt that they would win simply because of that.

 

[freezamite]

Future Zamasu (manga) has all of Kibitoshin's techniques, which include telekinetic powers and healing others.

Fair enough, though Goku might have improved the Kamehameha over time.

All gods have this ability, though Goku Black could have lost it since he doesn't have his godly body. Oh, and they have no right to blow up the planet. They should fight fairly.

Goku Black and Future Zamasu have some advantages on their own. In addition to the godly ki (preventing them from being sensed, which is great for sneak attacks), they literally have the same mind, making it an effective duo. Although Freeza and Cell have powerful abilities, I doubt that they would win simply because of that.

Good points. If they could do anyting I would still give this to Freezer and Cell becaus of blowing the planet to kill black and then a 2 on 1 on Zamatsu, but if they fight fairly I don't see them winning as easily as before.
It would be a pretty close fight then, as you say.