Giant Lord Slug vs Initial 4th Form Freeza

[SSJ2]

Who wins?

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Slug stomps, as I have his Giant form surpassing no hands Freeza at least.

 

[SSJ2]

How strong do you have him? My memory on that film is nonexistent, but I recall Goku should be 90k due to release dates.

Goku: 90,000
Toei SSJ: 4,500,000

Supposedly this was said:

*After Slug transforms*

Kaio-Sama: Unless I miss my guess, not even Freeza or perhaps even a Super Saiyan can stand up to him"

But the film was released around the time of 3rd form Freeza iirc, so who the fuck knows.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Shit, I don't know where I'd put him. I wouldn't put him any higher than Kaioken x10 Goku on Namek I guess. The line could possibly refer to 100% Freeza if you go by the manga's release dates as Freeza had mentioned at that point that he was using 50%. I don't, but it's possible.

 

[Void]

Giant Slug Stomps. Goku uses a Kaio-Ken x100 for that green fuck.

 

[SSJ2]

Right, but that would only be 9 million in my books. Slug could be a decent amount lower than that.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

In my books, if you mean the Freeza Vegeta thought he could fight, Slug stomps so hard it's not even funny.

 

[Keedounan]

Giant Slugh might very well be stronger than 4th form Frieza even at his full power. First of all, the last chapter when the movie was released was this one http://www.kanzenshuu.com/manga/chp-315/, premiered in the weekly shonen jump.

Therefore, Toei might have had a good idea on how powerful Frieza was. Plus, Goku required needed KKx100, which is arguably stronger than SSJ.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Going by M5 Base Goku > Full Power Freeza, Giant Slug > Full Power Freeza seems to be a logical place for M5 powers to stem off of.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

So, Giant Slug might be stronger than 5th Form Cooler as well?

 

[Diamond Ryan]

5th Form Coola > KK x20 M5 Goku, so no.

 

[Animelover5487]

When did Goku say he was using Kaioken x100? IIRC, he got borrowed ki from an injured Piccolo and ripped right through Slug using Kaioken. I don't remember him saying it was x100. Lol, considering the strain that should have logically killed him.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Kaioken x100 was written in a guidebook I believe. Not sure which though.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Damn, I didn't know how strong this piece of shit but I guess he might win this but not against 50% Freeza IMO. @Pakl

 

[Tapion]

The way i see it, Lord Slug loses badly here, since i have him around Weighted Piccolo give or take. Here is why.

 

[Super Neko Majin Z]

I have Lord Slug winning. Regardless of release dates there's no logical in-universe reason for Kaio-Sama not to know about Frieza's full power, so Slug > 100% Frieza. And as someone already said, Frieza had said he was using 50% of his power in the manga. Just because TOEI hadn't adapted that part yet doesn't mean they hadn't read the manga.

 

[Papasmurf]

Kaio-sama didn't know Freeza's full power until the tail end of the Freeza arc. He originally believed Goku vs. Freeza would be a good fight until he was raping Goku's KKx10 with just his 50%. In-universe they wouldve needed to get back from Namek for Kaio to be aware of Freeza's full power, which they had not in this movie.

 

[Pakl]

I used to say he is stronger than 3rd form Freeza but the movie was revealed before Freeza used his 3rd form... It was not known when the movie was released due to dates confusion... I guess he is in par with FP Nailccolo?

 

[Pakl]

Congrutulations SuperSaiyan2. You made a great thread because they are equals!

Initial Final Form Freeza ~ Giant Slug > "SSjin" Vegeta (last zenkai on Namek) ~ Movie 4 False SSjin Goku.

 

[SSJ2]

Shouldn't M4 SSJ Goku be ahead of Namek Vegeta? He should be 90,000 in the film, no?