Gogeta & Broly vs. Beerus & Jiren

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Hm. Would probably go with Gogeta and Broly. Gogeta takes the edge over Beerus for me (at least for now, until he's retconned back to number one again). And Broly's rising power would probably overtake Jiren eventually, if it hasn't already.
 

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Anime-wise, Gogeta and Broly win due to the Super anime having not returned to retcon Beerus' power. Manga-wise, Beerus takes it due to the retconning of his power and abilities to be significantly above Jiren's level and it being apparent 73 Moro is superior to Broly in durability at least, and Current UI Galu was still capable of damaging him (not to mention Manga Broly is nearly featless and whether or not statements from the movie should apply is debatable with how much the continuities can diverge).
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Anime-wise, Gogeta and Broly win due to the Super anime having not returned to retcon Beerus' power. Manga-wise, Beerus takes it due to the retconning of his power and abilities to be significantly above Jiren's level and it being apparent 73 Moro is superior to Broly in durability at least, and Current UI Galu was still capable of damaging him (not to mention Manga Broly is nearly featless and whether or not statements from the movie should apply is debatable with how much the continuities can diverge).

So we can say that in the Manga:

Beerus (Current or Post Redcon)> \ >> Granola (Current)> Merus = UI Goku (Current) = UI Moro >>> Vegeta SSJBE (FP or Hakai / Current)> = Moro (OG73I) ~ Vegetto SSJB (Arc Zamasu / Manga)> = Broly LSSJ> = Beerus (Pre Redcon) = Quitela> = UI Goku (ToP)> = Jiren "Beyond the Limits"> Jiren (FP)> Vermoud >> Vegeta SSJBE (Post Yadart)?

The big question is to know if Beerus was the only one who obtained a Redcon or were all the Gods or will it be that the Destroyer Gods have a Base power and an FP power, where they use their Hakai (not as an amplifying attack, but when using the Hakai access their true maximum power).

What do you think [mention]Captain Cadaver[/mention]?
 

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Kenshi said:
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Beerus could probably win by himself honestly.

What about if it was Vegetto (post-ToP) and Broly?

Nobody knows anything about Beerus. Nothing strictly goes against him winning still.

It's possible that Beerus is not ''stronger'' than Gogeta/Vegetto in the traditional DB sense of having more raw Ki, but I think his Hakai abilities overrides that kind of disadvantage.
 
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