How was Pure Buu able to hold the Spirit Bomb?

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The attack collected Genki from everyone on earth and on Namek, but Buu was able to hold it and needed SSJ Goku's energy to finish the attack and kill Buu.
And why the kids didn't power up/fuse to give it energy? Genki is the part related to energy/vigor, so wouldn't a strongest person be more useful to fill the attack?
Could a Spirit Bomb with only Gohan's genki kill Buu?
 

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Kid Boo was only able to hold it because Goku didn't have enough power to unleash it properly.

I don't think transforming would've changed anything. Their Genki was likely intact. As the SEG said, someone can be sick and have more Genki than someone in great condition. I don't think a transformation would automatically create more Genki. As for why they didn't merge, your guess is as good as anyone else's.

No, it couldn't. A KMHMH with Gohan's Chi would've wiped Kid Boo out, though.
 

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I never knew about that SEG quote. That's cool.
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
Kid Boo was only able to hold it because Goku didn't have enough power to unleash it properly.

Can you give me a quote or a scan?

I don't think transforming would've changed anything. Their Genki was likely intact. As the SEG said, someone can be sick and have more Genki than someone in great condition. I don't think a transformation would automatically create more Genki. As for why they didn't merge, your guess is as good as anyone else's.

But Genki is related to vigor. Shouldn't getting 50x faster, stronger, etc give a 50x boost on vigor, too?
Someone sick actually can have more genki than someone healthy, the healthy person only needs to have shitty Genki. Don't see the point here.

No, it couldn't. A KMHMH with Gohan's Chi would've wiped Kid Boo out, though.

Why it wouldn't?


And what you think of Goku saying something like "Let's gather their Ki to the fullest!" Before making the Spirit Bomb when the attack is supposed to be only made of Genki? He's just using "Ki" as a way to generalize things right?
 

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Fusing wouldn't have changed anything unless you're an idiot that believes the Genki Dama feeds purely off raw power. Like the people that think Kid Boo is the strongest.
 

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Can you give me a quote or a scan?

Chapter: 516 (DBZ 322), P8.2
Context: as Boo stops the Genki-Dama
Vegeta: “I didn’t pla-plan on this…! Kakarot doesn’t have the sta-stamina to fire that all-important Genki-Dama…!”

But Genki is related to vigor. Shouldn't getting 50x faster, stronger, etc give a 50x boost on vigor, too?

Not necessarily. Genki is merely a portion of one's overall Chi. Other parts of their Chi could likely raise through transformation while the Genki part of the Chi would remain the same. None of this stuff is well explained, but it seems as if all of the Genki available could be utilized without them needing to transform. Merging is a whole different story.

Someone sick actually can have more genki than someone healthy, the healthy person only needs to have shitty Genki. Don't see the point here.

I think the point is transforming doesn't necessarily mean more Genki will be generated. Goten and Trunks' Genki likely wouldn't have changed no matter what. If the whole idea is to take their energy to its limits, yet neither transformed, wouldn't that mean they barely gave any energy at all? It wouldn't make any sense within the story. All of their energy was noticeable enough for Goku to note.

Why it wouldn't?

Gohan's Genki along with a bunch of others wasn't enough, so how would it be more effective...alone?

And what you think of Goku saying something like "Let's gather their Ki to the fullest!" Before making the Spirit Bomb when the attack is supposed to be only made of Genki? He's just using "Ki" as a way to generalize things right?

There would be no reason for Goku to ever mention Genki if Chi summed it all up as a whole. The aspect of Genki had to differ from Ki/Chi for him to even mention it the few times that he did.
 

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But Genki is related to vigor. Shouldn't getting 50x faster, stronger, etc give a 50x boost on vigor, too?
Someone sick actually can have more genki than someone healthy, the healthy person only needs to have shitty Genki. Don't see the point here.

Vigor relates to your well-being. Super Saiyan doesn't really change your health, just your physical condition. If you come down with a bad case of a flue, you'd still have the virus when you transform, so you'd have the same amount of Genki. Same case with fusion. That's just how I always interpret it.
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
Gohan's Genki along with a bunch of others wasn't enough, so how would it be more effective...alone?

But wasn't the trouble only with the way Goku throwed the Spirit Bomb?
 

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Vegeta thought it was still incomplete while Goku wasn't sure if it was enough.

You could also say Goku and Vegeta were more focused on going for overkill than just enough to win. Makes sense considering how the same attack has failed twice before.
 
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