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Saiyan Saga

Raditz: 1310
- Weakened: 1000

Goku: 334
- W/o weights: 416

Piccolo: 322
- W/o weights: 408
-- SBC: 1330
-- 2nd SBC: 1220

Gohan (Crying): 710
- Enraged: 1307
- Docile: 1

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Yamcha: 1320

Saibamen: 1200 each

Krillin: 1600

Chaozu: 1000

Tenshinhan: 1750

Piccolo: 2100

Gohan: 1400
- Enraged Masenko: 2800

Nappa: 7800

Goku: 8010
- KKx2: 16,020
- KKx3: 24,030
-- Weakened: 22,000
--- KHH: 25,667
--- KKx4: 29,333
---- KHH: 34,222
--- Fucked up: 1000 and dropping

Vegeta: 18,000
- Weakened: 16,000
-- Galick Gun: 26,000
- Post-KHH: 13,000
- Post moon ball: 10,000
-- Oozaru: 100,000

Freeza Arc

Gohan: 1500

Krillin (w/ weights): 1500

Cui: 18,000

Dodoria: 20,000

Zarbon: 22,000
- Uglyassed: 28,000

Vegeta: 24,000
- post-zenkai: 29,500

Gohan (potential unlocked): 10,800

Krillin (potential unlocked): 10,100

Gurd: 8000

Recoom: 40,000

Burta: 40,000

Jheese: 40,000

Goku (resting powa): 5000
- Bursts: 65,000
- Powered up: 73,000
- Full power: 90,000
-- KKx2: 180,000

Ginyu (vs. Goku): 65,000
- Powered up: 79,000
- Full power: 120,000
- In Goku's body: 23,000 and dropping

Gohan: 25,000

Krillin: 24,000

Vegeta: 270,000

Nail: 42,000

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Vegeta: 500,000

Krillin: 300,000

Gohan: 330,000
- Enraged: 920,000
- Zenkai: 1,000,000
-- Enraged: 2,000,000

Piccolo: 375,000
- W/ Nail: 1,280,000
-- W/o weights: 1,600,000

Freeza: 530,000
- 2nd form: 1,060,000
-- Powered up: 1,240,000
-- Full power: 1,500,000
- 3rd form: 2,250,000
- True form (initially): 3,500,000

Vegeta (post-zenkai): 3,600,000
- Full power blast: 6,300,000

Freeza: 5,600,000
- Fighting Goku: 6,700,000
- No hands: 9,500,000
- 50%: 200,000,000
- 100%: 400,000,000
-- Energy shield: 888,000,000

Goku (warming up): 6,200,000
- Full power: 8,400,000
- KKx10: 84,000,000
- KKx20: 168,000,000
-- KHH: 196,000,000
- Super Saiyan: 420,000,000
-- KHH: 933,000,000

Cell Arc

Vegeta: 6,600,000

Piccolo: 6,500,000

Mecha Freeza (suppressed): 285,000,000
- Full power (unseen): 500,000,000

Cold: 280,000,000

Trunks: 15,600,000
- Super Saiyan: 780,000,000

Goku: 17,600,000
- Super Saiyan: 880,000,000

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Trunks's Timeline

SSJ Gohan (2 arms): 550,000,000
- 1 arm: 740,000,000

#17 (less than half): 675,000,000
- Full power: 1,900,000,000

#18: 1,725,000,000


SSJ Goku: 1,680,000,000
- Sick: 1,000,000,000

#19: 680,000,000
- post-absorptions: 860,000,000

SSJ Vegeta: 1,725,000,000

#20: 870,000,000
- post-absorptions: 1,130,000,000

Piccolo: 1,360,000,000

SSJ Trunks: 1,560,000,000

#18: 2,340,000,000

---

Piccolo (w/ Kami): 2,340,000,000
- W/o weights: 2,720,000,000
-- Tiring: 2,500,000,000
--- Fucked up: 2,000,000,000
- THE AMP HAS TO BE FIVE TIMES BECAUSE REASONS: 5,600,000,000

#17: 2,600,000,000

Imperfect Cell: 2,000,000,000
- KHH: 4,440,000,000
- post-supper: 7,200,000,000

#16: 6,750,000,000

Semi Cell: 16,000,000,000
- Full power: 21,000,000,000

SSJ Goku (in roasting pit): 2,500,000,000
- SSJG2: 6,600,000,000
- SSJG3: 18,000,000,000

SSJ Vegeta: 15,000,000,000
- SSJG2: 40,000,000,000
-- Stamina drained: 37,000,000,000
--- Final Flash: 111,000,000,000

Perfect Cell (initial chi reading): 36,000,000,000
- Initial power: 85,000,000,000

SSJ Trunks: 14,400,000,000
- SSJG2: 38,400,000,000
- SSJG3: 105,000,000,000

SSJ Goku (post-roast, 50%): 80,000,000,000

---

Piccolo: 78,000,000,000

SSJ Vegeta: 116,000,000,000

SSJ Trunks: 110,000,000,000

Cell kids: 120,000,000,000 each

SSJ Goku: 160,000,000,000
- Insta-KHH: 480,000,000,000

Cell (holding back): 180,000,000,000
- VS Gohan: 205,000,000,000
- Full power: 400,000,000,000
-- KHH: 1,200,000,000,000
- Post-zenkai: 840,000,000,000
-- KHH: 2,520,000,000,000
--- Nice play Vegeta: 2,200,000,000,000

SSJ Gohan: 220,000,000,000
- Slightly Angry: 240,000,000,000
- Super Saiyan 2: 880,000,000,000
-- Casual KHH: 1,760,000,000,000
-- Fucked up: 420,000,000,000
--- Weakass KHH: 1,260,000,000,000
--- Feel tha powa: 880,000,000,000
---- Fuckin Cell's shit up KHH: 2,640,000,000,000
 

SSJ2

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Vegeta 270k vs Ginyu, since when did you believe that?
 

Kyo

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Have went with Vegeta >> 180k for a while, I'm pretty sure.
 

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270,000 seems a little low for Vegeta at that point tho.
 

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I think 250k (or 270k) works fine. But I have a few nitpicks.

  • Vegeta expected Gohan and Krillin to be of help against a transformed Freeza so I'd raise them a bit.

  • Why is pre-fusion Piccolo so high?

  • Personally, I'd have a slightly larger gap between Piccolo and Vegeta at Trunks' arrival.
 

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I think True Form Initial Freeza should be superior to Vegeta. Perhaps by the same amount he was during their first scuffle.

Vegeta looks shocked, overwhelmed and is dreading his encounter with Freeza. He's clearly caught up, but he's not very confident. The confidence comes from his belief in being a Super Saiyan and that the Super Saiyan beats all.

Good to see you with a list.
 

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Good list... So do you have Goku base ( Vs Freeza ) > Vegeta base ( Trunks Saga ) ? hmm... Like Mike said, I think you should increase a little the gap between Piccolo and Vegeta during Trunks saga. I generally have Piccolo at 93% of Vegeta, that is, enough to put up a fight but still lose.

Piccolo 6,200,000
Vegeta 6,600,000
 

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It works, I believed in that for years, I just don't see it anymore.
 

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I thought Vegeta was like 50k against Jheese, but kenshi convinced me that he's stronger than Goku Kaioken ( 180k ).
 

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Kyo said:
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y always only dragonball z???

y not dragonball
 

Kyo

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I did Dragon Ball once, but I just don't remember it well enough now.
http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8410289/1/

About Vegeta, it has to do with Ginyu thinking that stealing Vegeta's body will turn the tables against Gohan and Krillin. If I remember correctly, Goku seems to agree or is at least pretty concerned. He also thinks that he's approaching Super Saiyan, but that'd be an odd conclusion to come to if he was only 50k or so. Plus, Vegeta increasing his strength like ten times after taking a nap for whatever reason is uncalled for. I'd rather believe that he'd already gotten power that was < 1st form Freeza and that he was suppressed against Jeice. 270k is just a random number I chose for that moment, it just needs to be >> 180k imo. Even if I ignored the implications of Ginyu in Vegeta's body > Gohan + Krillin, I'd still say that Vegeta is really >>> 50k and that he was just hiding his reserves.
 

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yeah i stopped being bored at a certain point and did better things <small><small><small><del>like read girls of the wild's</del></small></small></small>
 
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