Kale SSJ2 vs Frieza Final Form (ToP)?

[SIAD]

hey are both from the anime.

Who is more powerful and who wins?

 

[Papasmurf]

Freeza had to go Golden just to knock off "trash" like Cabba, he wouldn't last 10 seconds against SSJ2 Kale without it.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Freeza was going to take on Caulifla and Kale at once and Goku had to stop him. I think he stomps here.

 

[SIAD]

I have a hard time having Frieza Fourth Form stronger than Kale SSJ2.

Golden Frieza's Multiplier over Frieza (100%) in ToP would really be too small.

I'm thinking about how it would be to have Goku SSJ2 (at the moment when I grab Frieza to prevent him from attacking the Saiyans) over Frieza Fourth Form with the same difference in power that they had when Goku became SSJ the first time against Frieza (50%), since I grab it in a similar way and with the same ease?

And considering the power boosts Goku had, Frieza Fourth Form would be comfortably stronger than Cabba SSJ2, as Frieza deemed it unnecessary to transform into Golden Frieza to take a slightly amplified attack from Cabba SSJ2.

What do you think?

@Animelover5487
@Goku9001
@GreatSaiyaman123

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Golden Frieza's Multiplier over Frieza (100%) in ToP would really be too small.

How?

Golden Freeza = SSJB Goku >>> SSJG Goku >>> SSJ2 Kale

I think Base Freeza might be around SSJG level since he's stronger than Dyspo who's also in that level.

 

[Animelover5487]

How?

Golden Freeza = SSJB Goku >>> SSJG Goku >>> SSJ2 Kale

I think Base Freeza might be around SSJG level since he's stronger than Dyspo who's also in that level.

Wouldn't Blue Goku be stronger than Golden Freeza at this point? Also, I just rewatched Kale and Caulifia vs Goku again and Goku is shown fighting well against them together even as a SSJ2. In SSJG he beats them soundly but Kale is still able to defend a little so I don't know, the fight makes the gap between SSJ2 and SSJG not look so large.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Wouldn't Blue Goku be stronger than Golden Freeza at this point? Also, I just rewatched Kale and Caulifia vs Goku again and Goku is shown fighting well against them together even as a SSJ2. In SSJG he beats them soundly but Kale is still able to defend a little so I don't know, the fight makes the gap between SSJ2 and SSJG not look so large.

Right, I always forget Goku got stronger fighting Caulifla.

Both fights look like stomps to me. Kale tackles Goku against a wall and almost drags him out of the arena, and then she gets Goku from behind even though he could sense their Ki. Goku was on the defensive the entire fight. Then SSJG Goku literally walks through Kale blast even though he was distracted with Caulifla. Whatever resistance the girls could manage was mostly because of their teamwork and Goku barely trying against them.

SSJ3 alone is 4x SSJ2 and SSJG is much higher than that, I say 10x. It's a pretty large gap I'd say.

 

[Goku9001]

The way I see it:

SSJB Goku (vs. Jiren) > SSJG Goku (vs. Kale/Caulifa) > SSJ2 Kale > Kale ~ SSJB Goku (Initial) > Dyspo > Final Form Frieza

Frieza should still lose.