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How strong do you have King Cold in comparison to 100% Freeza as well as Mecha Freeza?
 

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That weak? You think Freeza would refer to him as potential help if he's that low?
 

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So Kuririn and Gohan need to be 70% of Vegeta to help against Freeza?
 

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Nah. The fact that Cold still thinks he can beat Trunks despite seeing him rape Freeze tells me he can't be that weak. I think 70% is fair.
 

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Nah. The fact that Cold still thinks he can beat Trunks despite seeing him rape Freeze tells me he can't be that weak. I think 70% is fair.

He thought it was because of the sword, though. He also tried to open Trunks' guard with the "You can replace my son" talk.

Cold is kind of confusing. He's grouped with suppressed Freeza and Gohan says Freeza was holding back a lot but Cold was actually useful against Freeza, when i doubt he could if Freeza was holding back by multifolds.
 

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Would Jheese and Butta think they could beat Namek Goku if they had a sword? Jheese looked afraid as fuck when he heard Ginyu's estimation that he was 60k, imagine if he was told Goku was 90k there.. I don't think he'd suddenly think he could win if he had a sword.
 

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Cold was refusing to face the facts and used the sword as a way to deny the fact that he was about to die.

I have Cold at like 70% of Organic Freeza btw.
 

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Cold was refusing to face the facts and used the sword as a way to deny the fact that he was about to die.

I have Cold at like 705 of Organic Freeza btw.

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Diamond Ryan said:
Cold was refusing to face the facts and used the sword as a way to deny the fact that he was about to die.

I have Cold at like 705 of Organic Freeza btw.

You have Cold 7x stronger than Freeza? :eek:dawg
 

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Freeza isn't sure if he can beat Goku, but he thinks Cold attacking will guarantee a victory.

But the way Freeza comes off gives the impression that Cold's a lot weaker.

The Daizenshuu says he's "somewhat inferior" to Freeza.
 

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How strong do you have King Cold in comparison to 100% Freeza as well as Mecha Freeza?
It depends, King Cold's true maximum strength or King Cold's 2nd suppressed form?
I would say their strength was:
1. Freezer 100% at 12.000.000
2. King Cold 100% at 5.000.000
3. Mecha Freezer at 1.000.000
4. King Cold suppressed form at 950.000
 

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I don't believe he'd have to be close to Freeza at all. The way Freeza mentioned probably being able to take Goku makes it sound like he'd be at least capable of fighting Goku dead evenly, so shifting the scales with even a ~50% Freeza tier support would be enough for Freeza to have a definite advantage. I have him around 60-65% of organic Freeza's full power.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
I don't believe he'd have to be close to Freeza at all. The way Freeza mentioned probably being able to take Goku makes it sound like he'd be at least capable of fighting Goku dead evenly, so shifting the scales with even a ~50% Freeza tier support would be enough for Freeza to have a definite advantage. I have him around 60-65% of organic Freeza's full power.
60-65% is a solid approximation, but I think it should be lower considering Freezer never had to use his 100% ever before facing Goku. And for how he spoke against Goku, I think 50% Freezer (the stronger Freezer could go without forcing his body at all) was enough to handle him already.
 

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He announced he was at 100%.
 
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