Lowering the SSJ Multiplier

SSJ2

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Do any of you drop the SSJ multiplier below 50x at any point in the manga?
 

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I think it did. Mr Toriyama himself said he pictured SSJ boost as a 10x after Namek. 50x was too bloated even for him.
 

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I tone it down for fusions, and that's about it. I don't see any outstanding problems with the 50x multiplier normally.

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Lately, i lower it to 4x after Freeza. It makes so much more sense this way...
-Base Goku's punch to Dr Gero
-Base Saiyans>Kaioshin>Piccolo
-3000/800 kiri ratio
-Fusion multipliers
-You can make the humans strong enough to explain why they came to fight
Androids but still keep them weaker than Base Saiyans.
 

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SSJ2 said:
Do any of you drop the SSJ multiplier below 50x at any point in the manga?
Any SSJ that's not FP SSJ Goku pre-DBS has a much lower than 50x multiplier for their SSJ (no matter if it's their untrained form -like Vegeta in the androids saga, that gets a 2x boost at best- or their FPSSJ forms).
 

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10x for the Pre-Rosat section of the Artificial Humans Arc so that Gero's statement about the humans, Gohan and Piccolo makes slightly more sense, and a 2.5x for Gotenks due to general scaling and the lack of seeming like a dozen fold increase against Evil Boo make it seem nowhere near warranting a 50x multiplier. Other than that, I stick with 50x for the rest of the manga, since even being as minimal as possible, I'd find it hard to not have the Base Saiyans leagues above #17/18 by the time of the Boo Arc, with the Mighty Mask fight suggesting they aren't apart by some several times gap (unless you believe the costume made that much of a difference).
 

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I'm kind of doubtful about using the 10x on the Android Arc as Gero was never right about anything.

I do use the 10x for the Boo Arc though, it's implied not even as SSJ Trunks could fight hand to hand, and Base Saiyans >> Piccolo with a 50x multiplier is fucking anarchy.
 
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