Nappa vs Frieza (Namek)

[Nèro]

Nappa suddenly goes ssj3 and decides to fight Frieza. Can he do it?

 

[Papasmurf]

Nappa would get his ass beat by 4th form Freeza

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Nappa suddenly goes ssj3 and decides to fight Frieza. Can he do it?

That beard!!!

Anyway, Nappa gets destroyed by 3rd Frieza IMO.

 

[kriss-]

Super Saiyan 3 brings a user to their limits. Considering Nappa was born with a much higher power level thann Goku, it's safe to assume he would be brought to levels beyond Goku in the Boo Saga.

He one shots.

mad?

 

[Pocket-God]

his PL should be around 2mil(I'm going with his base pl is 5k) so.....he loses to Frieza's 3rd form.

 

[Uchiha]

Super Saiyan 3 brings a user to their limits. Considering Nappa was born with a much higher power level thann Goku, it's safe to assume he would be brought to levels beyond Goku in the Boo Saga.

He one shots.

mad?

starting power doesn't equate to potential

 

[kriss-]

Each Saiyan's potential determines which rank they will become. Goku was a lower warrior whereas Nappa was an elite. Don't even bring up that Vegeta bullshit. Vegeta's potential far exceeds Goku, he became a Saiyan God without needing the help of others.

Nappa one shots.

 

[Six Trails]

Weird that Vegeta's potential far exceeds Goku's, yet when he was brought past his limits in the Boo arc he only ended up equal to Goku.

 

[kriss-]

That's an ever changing concept m8.

Weird

 

[Uchiha]

Their potential and rank aren't the same. There's no evidence for that. It's only for their current rank.

 

[kriss-]

Nappa was recognized as a better warrior and Goku was sent to a weaker planet. It's definitely referencing potential.

Nappa once shots.l

 

[Uchiha]

That's not what potential means. Potential is hidden away. Rank is what's in front. I'm not sure who wins but you're mixing up latent potential and apparent ability.

 

[kriss-]

Not at all. Nappa was a more gifted warrior. Hence why he advanced so much more quickly.

Potential

latent qualities or abilities that may be developed and lead to future success or usefulness.

Nappa had more potential. SSj3 is a potential unlock.

Nuff said.

 

[Uchiha]

That definition doesn't help your case at all. The ranks were given based on current ability not latent future potential.

 

[kriss-]

Sure it does. Nappa progressed much quicker than Goku.

 

[Uchiha]

Well now you've changed your argument from rank being more potential to faster progression being more potential.

Faster progression can be an indicator of having more potential (but the definition doesn't say that, fyi, but I agree anyway). It's not always the case though. Sometimes having a better environment to train can make you better than those who have better potential. For example a student who gets special tutoring ends up getting better grades than some lazy student closet genius. The special training helped the first case.

Nappa and Raditz had a better environment (gravity, better fighters, harsher climate) so they progressed faster than Goku who had the ease and comfort of Earth. When Goku had a small dose of that kind of that on Kai's planet he eclipsed Raditz and Nappa's entire lifetime of training.

 

[kriss-]

Well now you've changed your argument from rank being more potential to faster progression being more potential.

Faster progression can be an indicator of having more potential (but the definition doesn't say that, fyi, but I agree anyway). It's not always the case though. Sometimes having a better environment to train can make you better than those who have better potential. For example a student who gets special tutoring ends up getting better grades than some lazy student closet genius. The special training helped the first case.

Nappa and Raditz had a better environment (gravity, better fighters, harsher climate) so they progressed faster than Goku who had the ease and comfort of Earth. When Goku had a small dose of that kind of that on Kai's planet he eclipsed Raditz and Nappa's entire lifetime of training.

Nappas progression is evidence of the amount of potential he can tap into to increase his abilities. Goku had to receive special training from a deity in order to surpass him.

Oh, and what do you think would happen if Nappa received the same training Goku did? Lmao.

Nappa one shots.

 

[Uchiha]

You're comparing Nappa's progression in a favorable high gravity environment to Goku's progression in an unfavorable and very easy environment.

Nappa probably wouldn't make the same gains as Goku did. At least there's no evidence for it. Goku has been shown to make a lot of a little.

 

[kriss-]

Goku had the benefits of being trained by a god, which cancels out the high gravity argument.

 

[Uchiha]

Even then you're using my argument of "favorable environment". You said Goku had a favorable environment when training with Kaio. Ok. And Nappa had a favorable environment growing up. Point?