Suppose the power of UI Goku (Vs Granolah) is 1

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UI Goku (Vs Granolah) = 1

Merus = 1

Granolah (Unaccustomed) = 1.1

Vegeta SSJBE (Vs Granolah / Initial) = 0.72
Vegeta SSJBE (Zenkai Power) = 0.8
Mega Instinct Vegeta (Initial) = 1.6
Mega Instinct Vegeta (Peak) = 2
Mega Instinct Vegeta (Hakai) = 2.25
Mega Instinct (2nd time) = 2.097152

Granolah (Unaccustomed) = 1.28
Granolah (Vs Vegeta / FP) = 2.56

Gas (Unaccustomed / Initial) = 2.58

Granolah (Vs Gas / Initial) = 3.125

Gas (Unaccustomed) = 4

Granolah (Vs Gas / FP) = 4.1875

Gas (Used to) = 4.2
Gas (Instincts Released) = 8.4
Gas (Instincts Released Controlled) = 8.4

Chapter 84:

UI Goku = 2.8125

Mega Instinct Vegeta = 2.8125

Mega Instinct Vegeta (Power Up 1) = 4.375

Mega Instinct Vegeta (Hakai) = 5.25

Mega Instinct Vegeta (Power Up 2) = 5.25

Gas = 8.4

Chapter 85:

Gas = 8.4

Mega Instinct Vegeta (Power Up 3) = 6.5625

Mega Instinct Vegeta (Power Up 4) = 7.875

Mega Instinct Vegeta (Power Up 5) = 9

UI Sing Goku = 9

Old Gas = 13.44

Chapter 86:

True UI Goku = 9

Old Gas = 13.44

Granolah = 9

UI Goku (Avatar) = 27

Granolah (Shoot) = 28.125

Granolah (Hypothetical Shoot 100%) = 28.8

Chapter 87:

Granolah = 28.8

True UI Goku = 28.8

Mega Instinct Vegeta = 28.8

Zombie Gas = 43.008

Buff Zombie Gas = 53.76

Black Freezer = 100

Beerus = 160

Whis = 240

Vados = 245.76

Daishinkan = 57.600

 

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@GreatSaiyaman123
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[SIAD]

I have:

UI Goku (Vs Granolah) = 1

Granolah (Unaccustomed) = 1.1

Vegeta SSJBE (Vs Granolah / Initial) = 0.72
Vegeta SSJBE (Zenkai Power) = 0.8
Mega Instinct Vegeta = 1.6

Granolah (Vs Vegeta / FP) = 1.92

Gas (Unaccustomed / Initial) = 1.93

Granolah (Vs Gas / Initial) = 2.5

Gas (Unaccustomed) = 3.2

Granolah (Vs Gas / FP) = 3.35

Gas (Used to) = 3.36
Gas (Instincts Released) = 4.704
Gas (Instincts Released Controlled) = 4.704

Chapter 84:

UI Goku = 1.6

Mega Instinct Vegeta = 1.6

Mega Instinct Vegeta (Power Up 1) = 2.5

Mega Instinct Vegeta (Hakai) = 3

UI Goku (Power Up) = 2.5

Mega Instinct Vegeta (Power Up 2) = 3.5

Gas = 4.704

Beerus (Current) >= 6

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Granolah never powered up fighting Gas. It's said multiple times his only upperhand was in the skill department. Gas further powering up by controlling his instincts is not suggested anywhere, and same with Goku and Vegeta as they fought Gas. Vegeta is getting stronger, but nothing noticeable yet.

UI Goku (Vs Granolah) = 1

Granolah (Unaccustomed) = 1.08

Vegeta SSJBE (Vs Granolah / Initial) = 0.192
Vegeta SSJBE (Zenkai Power) = 0.96
Mega Instinct Vegeta = 1.44 ~1.92

Granolah (Vs Vegeta / FP) = 2.16

Gas (Unaccustomed / Initial) = 2.25
Gas (Unaccustomed) = 3
Gas (Instincts Released) = 6

Chapter 84:

UI Goku = 2.4

Mega Instinct Vegeta = 2.4+

Mega Instinct Vegeta (Hakai) = 3.6+

 

[SIAD]

Granolah never powered up fighting Gas. It's said multiple times his only upperhand was in the skill department. Gas further powering up by controlling his instincts is not suggested anywhere, and same with Goku and Vegeta as they fought Gas. Vegeta is getting stronger, but nothing noticeable yet.

UI Goku (Vs Granolah) = 1

Granolah (Unaccustomed) = 1.08

Vegeta SSJBE (Vs Granolah / Initial) = 0.192
Vegeta SSJBE (Zenkai Power) = 0.96
Mega Instinct Vegeta = 1.44 ~1.92

Granolah (Vs Vegeta / FP) = 2.16

Gas (Unaccustomed / Initial) = 2.25
Gas (Unaccustomed) = 3
Gas (Instincts Released) = 6

Chapter 84:

UI Goku = 2.4

Mega Instinct Vegeta = 2.4+

Mega Instinct Vegeta (Hakai) = 3.6+

I agree, I just think that Granolah got stronger after his match against Vegeta, because right before the Granolah vs. Gas match started, Granolah for the first time expels an aura, something he never did against Vegeta.

And do you think Goku powered up by sending the Hakai to Heaven?

 

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What do you think @GreatSaiyaman123 @Goku9001 @Animelover5487

 

[Goku9001]

Granolah definitely did get stronger after his battle with Vegeta. He's able to maintain his newfound power whereas against Goku and Vegeta, he was absolutely struggling to wield it.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I decided to read the chapter @SIAD. Right now it looks like this:

UE Vegeta (Peak) > New UI Goku >= Gas >> UE Vegeta (Initial) = UI Goku

I’m not sure if that form is actually UI Sign since the characters don’t say so, but if it is then I think it’s stronger than it used to be because Goku isn’t holding back his feelings anymore.

 

[SIAD]

I decided to read the chapter @SIAD. Right now it looks like this:

UE Vegeta (Peak) > New UI Goku >= Gas >> UE Vegeta (Initial) = UI Goku

I’m not sure if that form is actually UI Sign since the characters don’t say so, but if it is then I think it’s stronger than it used to be because Goku isn’t holding back his feelings anymore.

Goku is using something like UI Sing 2?

 

[Papasmurf]

Goku is using something like UI Sing 2?

Shoulda just had a lightning aura lol

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

SSJ2 Kefla was clearly being compared to suppressed Goku

 

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@GreatSaiyaman123

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I’m reworking my Manga scale. Do you think there will be anything more next chapter? I was sort of waiting for the saga to end for a wrap.

I think Granolah seems stronger than before because he too got a boost since he heard Bardock in his dreams, though he can’t beat Gas on his own because he’s still injured. He needed to focus his power into that blast, like Piccolo does with the Makkankosappo.

When Goku and Gas visited Whis the Oracle Fish had no idea who Gas was, so I think either Avatar Goku or FP Granolah is the strongest in the universe.

 

[SIAD]

Maybe it's a temporary pause of the Arc.

Who will be stronger between UI Goku (Avatar) and Granolah (Shoot)?

I also think it was an amplified attack. I thought that Granolah did not launch the attack at 100% to knock Gas unconscious, instead of killing him.

 

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[GreatSaiyaman123]

The form that looks like Sign is actually a new form called “True Ultra Instinct”, so it’s not Goku going beyond limits with Sign.

I think a healthy Granolah now is going to be stronger than Gas. If he left Gas alive it’s because he’s not a threat to him anymore.

Might try to do my own scale later, but I doubt I’ll include Goku’s Avatar. No idea how strong it is.

 

[SIAD]

The form that looks like Sign is actually a new form called “True Ultra Instinct”, so it’s not Goku going beyond limits with Sign.

I think a healthy Granolah now is going to be stronger than Gas. If he left Gas alive it’s because he’s not a threat to him anymore.

Might try to do my own scale later, but I doubt I’ll include Goku’s Avatar. No idea how strong it is.

I will be very anxious waiting for your updated Manga list. By the way, I was talking about UI Sign Goku (Beyond Limits) when he increased his aura in his fight against Gas in Chapter 86, when Goku manages to hurt him a bit.

 

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@GreatSaiyaman123

So the state you are using now is True UI.

My questions are, shouldn't it be called True UI Sign? And when he used his silver hair in Chapter 86, was it True UI Goku?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

@GreatSaiyaman123

So the state you are using now is True UI.

My questions are, shouldn't it be called True UI Sign? And when he used his silver hair in Chapter 86, was it True UI Goku?

From what I’ve seen this is what people have been calling the forms:

UI Sign is UI Sign

Silver hair is Perfected so PUI (But I still prefer to call it MUI)

True UI is the best because Goku took UI Sign and made a new form from it. MUI wasn’t as effective because Goku had to suppress his feelings. Apparently there’s a subtle difference because there’s a glow in Sign’s hair but True UI has all black hair.