Tapion's Manga Power Levels List(Freeza and Cell Saga)

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Well, this is my second power level list in this website and is also my manga-only list. So yes, in this one i'm not taking in account what is said in Super . I think that i'll make a list that is based on what Super says and implies later, but this one is manga-only.

Note: So, the power levels will be bloated, but not unnecessarily bloated.

Multipliers
~ Super Saiyan - 50x base
~ Super Saiyan Grade 2(Ascended) - 100x base
~ Super Saiyan Grade 3(Ultra) - 150x base
~ Full-Power Super Saiyan - 50x base with full mastery and control
~ Super Saiyan 2 - 200x base
~ Super Saiyan 3 - 800x base
~ "Super" Namekian - 6.33x base(first merger)
~ "Super" Namekian 2 - 2x base(second merger)

Super Namekian is an official and canon term for Fused Namekians. Super Namekian 2, however, is just a representative name.

Freeza Saga
The Battle with the Ruler of the Galaxy

Goku
~ base - 6,000,000
~ Kaioken x10 - 60,000,000
~ Kaioken x20 - 120,000,000
~ x20 Kamehameha - 133,000,000
~ Spirit Bomb - 180,000,000
~ Super Saiyan - 300,000,000

Goku was able to fight evenly with Initial True Form Freeza, but even so, his x20 Kamehameha was easily bounced back by 50% Freeza.

Vegeta
~ base(before Zenkai) - 480,000
~ base(after Zenkai) - 4,000,000

Vegeta was capable of grappling evenly with Freeza, so they are rivals at least. After his zenkai, he is totally wrecked and destroyed by Initial True Form Freeza. However, in order to feel confident, he should be considerably ahead of 3rd Form Freeza.

Freeza
~ First Form(initial battle power) - 220,000
~ First Form(against Vegeta) - 530,000
~ Second Form(initial) - 1,060,000
~ Second Form(vs. Son Gohan) - 1,200,000
~ Second Form(vs. Piccolo) - 1,850,000
~ Third Form - 3,000,000
~ True Form(initial battle power) - 6,000,000
~ True Form(increased speed) - 6,200,000
~ 50% of full power - 140,000,000
~ 70% of full power - 196,000,000
~ All-Out - 280,000,000

In his second form, Freeza powered up thrice. The first power up was the one that gave birth to his second form, with over one million. The second power up was against Gohan, and the third one was against Piccolo. Before powering up completely, he says that he didn't take Piccolo seriously when he first looked at him and is "sorry", so we can safely assume that 2nd Form Freeza(final power up) was considerably ahead of his second power up. His third form was capable of wrecking Piccolo completely, in both speed and power so 3 millions is a good ammount of power. That's a 1.66x gap between Piccolo and 3rd Freeza. But in his true form, his initial battle power was so much higher than his previous 3rd form level that Piccolo stated that even if Freeza looked smaller and far less scary, his 3rd form would be considered very cute compared to his new power. Don't judge a book by its cover.

Piccolo
~ initial battle power - 270,000
~ Super Namekian(initial battle power) - 1,200,000
~ Super Namekian(weighted full power) - 1,500,000
~ Super Namekian(unweighted) - 1,900,000

According to Nail, if Piccolo fused with Kami again he might be able to defeat Freeza, and Kamiccolo's boost is 2x, so he is rivaling Freeza with weights, stronger than Freeza without weights. His initial Super Namekian level is at least one million, considering that he was able to fight Second Power Up Freeza toe to toe. His unweighted form should be on par, if not a little stronger than Full Power 2nd Form Freeza.

Gohan
~ pre Zenkai - 240,000
~ attacking 2nd Form Freeza - 800,000
~ post Zenkai - 720,000
~ attacking 3rd Form Freeza - 1,440,000
~ Masenko - 2,200,000

Krillin
~ base - 200,000
~ powered up(potential increasing) - 540,000

On Yardrat

Goku
~ post Zenkai - 9,000,000

Yardratians
~ base - 5

Trunks Saga

Goku
~ base - 10,000,000
~ Super Saiyan - 500,000,000

Trunks
~ base - 9,000,000
~ Super Saiyan - 450,000,000

Mecha Freeza
~ initial - 230,000,000
~ full power(unseen) - 320,000,000

King Cold
~ full power - 230,000,000

Vegeta
~ full power - 6,000,000

Piccolo
~ full power - 6,000,000

Gohan
~ base - 800,000

Krillin
~ base - 800,000

Tenshinhan
~ full power - 100,000

Yamcha
~ full power - 60,000

Android Saga

Goku
~ base - 30,000,000
~ Super Saiyan(healthy) - 1,500,000,000
~ Super Saiyan(sick) - 800,000,000
~ Super Saiyan(sick) - 400,000,000
~ base(sick) - 8,000,000

Trunks
~ base - 28,000,000
~ Super Saiyan - 1,400,000,000

Vegeta
~ base - 32,000,000
~ Super Saiyan - 1,600,000,000
~ Big Bang Attack - 2,000,000,000

Piccolo
~ initial - 400,000,000
~ full power - 1,100,000,000

Android 20
~ initial - 520,000,000
~ post absorptions - 800,000,000

Android 19
~ initial - 500,000,000
~ post absorptions - 750,000,000

Krillin
~ full power - 6,000,000

Tenshinhan
~ full power - 3,000,000

Yamcha
~ full power - 1,200,000

Android 17
~ full power - 3,000,000,000

Android 18
~ toying with Vegeta - 1,800,000,000
~ full power - 2,800,000,000

Android 16
~ initial - 2,000,000,000

Cell Saga
Appearance of Cell

Cell
~ Imperfect, Ginger Town - 2,000,000,000
~ Imperfect, After Absorptions - 15,000,000,000
~ Semi-Perfect, Initial - 32,000,000,000
~ Semi-Perfect, Full Power - 48,000,000,000
~ Perfect, Initial - 64,000,000,000
~ Perfect, Warm Up - 160,000,000,000

Vegeta
~ base(post RoSaT) - 800,000,000
~ Super Saiyan - 40,000,000,000
~ Super Saiyan Grade 2 - 80,000,000,000
~ Final Flash - 180,000,000,000

Trunks
~ base - 750,000,000
~ Super Saiyan - 37,500,000,000
~ Super Saiyan Grade 2 - 74,000,000,000
~ Super Saiyan Grade 3(initial) - 112,000,000,000
~ Super Saiyan Grade 3(inexperienced power boost) - 200,000,000,000

Piccolo
~ post fusing with Kami(weighted) - 2,200,000,000
~ post fusing with Kami(unweighted) - 3,000,000,000
~ Gekiretsu Kodan - 9,000,000,000

The Cell Games

Goku
~ base - 20,000,000,000
~ Full-Power Super Saiyan(Warm Up) - 240,000,000,000
~ Full-Power Super Saiyan(50%) - 500,000,000,000
~ Full-Power Super Saiyan(All-Out) - 1,000,000,000,000

Cell expected someone stronger than Trunks at the very least, so Warm Up Goku > SSJG3 Trunks.

Gohan
~ base - 25,000,000,000
~ Full-Power Super Saiyan - 1,250,000,000,000
~ Super Saiyan 2 - 5,000,000,000,000
~ Super Kamehameha - 7,500,000,000,000
~ Father-Son Kamehameha - 10,000,000,000,000

Cell
~ initial - 240,000,000,000
~ vs. Goku(50%) - 560,000,000,000
~ vs. Goku(full power) - 1,200,000,000,000
~ True Speed - 1,250,000,000,000
~ Full Power - 2,500,000,000,000
~ Super Perfect - 5,000,000,000,000

Vegeta
~ base - 12,500,000,000
~ Super Saiyan - 625,000,000,000

Trunks
~ base - 12,000,000,000
~ Super Saiyan - 600,000,000,000

Piccolo
~ full power - 560,000,000,000

Cell Jr
~ full power - 630,000,000,000
 

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Why does Goku get a Zenkai on Yardrat?
 

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a) There is no reason to make a distinction between the 20x Kamehameha and the 20x Kaio-Ken, they're the same thing.
b) 1rst Form Freeza was nonchalant and fine, but Vegeta had a hard time standing up.
 

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Zoro said:
Why does Goku get a Zenkai on Yardrat?

He was almost dead when he reached Yardrat so a Zenkai is reasonable.
 

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Zenkais after the Super Saiyan form cease to exist as far as we know.
 

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It looked like Goku got a Zenkai in his Saiyan God form. Beerus gave up looking for the Saiyan God and decided to finish Goku off. He healed himself for some unexplained reason -because that is just what Goku does, and came back stronger than ever. Surely, that was a Zenkai.
 

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Here:
Minute: 21-22
Context: After Goku takes out Beerus’ energy balls with a Kamehameha, Beerus stabs Goku through the chest
Beerus: “Sorry, I’ve got the wrong man. Seems you weren’t the one I was searching for after all.”
Significance: In other words, Beerus has been looking for a worthy opponent, and now he’s saying Goku apparently doesn’t fit the bill.

Minute: 26
Context: Goku narrates the Next Episode Preview.
Goku: "Hey, what's that technique? Has Beerus-sama been hiding his power again? But I'm a bit different than before too. I ain't gonna lose! Let's keep on fightin'!
Goku gets stabbed through the chest and miraculously heals himself after his life flashes before his eyes. He comes back even stronger than before. This occurred during Episode 12.
 

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Ah, explains why I haven't seen it.

I know you disagree, but since that didn't happen in BoG, I'll personally disregard it. I see why you'd use that though.

In the manga there were nearer death situations that didn't result in zenkais, like Vegeta vs 18, Vegeta vs Cell, etc.
 

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Zoro said:
Zenkais after the Super Saiyan form cease to exist as far as we know.

Which is completely baseless and fan hypothesis taken as fact.
 

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How is it baseless? There were a plethora of near death experiences with no zenkais as soon as the Super Saiyan form was introduced.
 

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Cell is not a 100% Saiyan, nor can it be proved that he's a Super Saiyan.
 

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Zoro said:
Cell is not a 100% Saiyan, nor can it be proved that he's a Super Saiyan.

He is capable of mimicking Super Saiyan forms. He was already shown to mimic

~ Super Saiyan
~ Super Saiyan Grade 3
~ Super Saiyan 2
 

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Mimic does not mean that he has the forms.
 

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Cell's transformations -such as Grade 2 and his Super Perfect Cell, are independent of the Super Saiyan transformations, obviously, but they derive from the same source and are essentially exclusive to him.
 

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HUEBR_Tapion said:
Well, this is my second power level list in this website and is also my manga-only list. So yes, in this one i'm not taking in account what is said in Super . I think that i'll make a list that is based on what Super says and implies later, but this one is manga-only.

Note: So, the power levels will be bloated, but not unnecessarily bloated.

Multipliers
~ Super Saiyan - 50x base
~ Super Saiyan Grade 2(Ascended) - 100x base
~ Super Saiyan Grade 3(Ultra) - 150x base
~ Full-Power Super Saiyan - 50x base with full mastery and control
~ Super Saiyan 2 - 200x base
~ Super Saiyan 3 - 800x base
~ "Super" Namekian - 6.33x base(first merger)
~ "Super" Namekian 2 - 2x base(second merger)

Super Namekian is an official and canon term for Fused Namekians. Super Namekian 2, however, is just a representative name.

Freeza Saga
The Battle with the Ruler of the Galaxy

Goku
~ base - 6,000,000
~ Kaioken x10 - 60,000,000
~ Kaioken x20 - 120,000,000
~ x20 Kamehameha - 133,000,000
~ Spirit Bomb - 180,000,000
~ Super Saiyan - 300,000,000

Goku was able to fight evenly with Initial True Form Freeza, but even so, his x20 Kamehameha was easily bounced back by 50% Freeza.

Vegeta
~ base(before Zenkai) - 480,000
~ base(after Zenkai) - 4,000,000

Vegeta was capable of grappling evenly with Freeza, so they are rivals at least. After his zenkai, he is totally wrecked and destroyed by Initial True Form Freeza. However, in order to feel confident, he should be considerably ahead of 3rd Form Freeza.

Freeza
~ First Form(initial battle power) - 220,000
~ First Form(against Vegeta) - 530,000
~ Second Form(initial) - 1,060,000
~ Second Form(vs. Son Gohan) - 1,200,000
~ Second Form(vs. Piccolo) - 1,850,000
~ Third Form - 3,000,000
~ True Form(initial battle power) - 6,000,000
~ True Form(increased speed) - 6,200,000
~ 50% of full power - 140,000,000
~ 70% of full power - 196,000,000
~ All-Out - 280,000,000

In his second form, Freeza powered up thrice. The first power up was the one that gave birth to his second form, with over one million. The second power up was against Gohan, and the third one was against Piccolo. Before powering up completely, he says that he didn't take Piccolo seriously when he first looked at him and is "sorry", so we can safely assume that 2nd Form Freeza(final power up) was considerably ahead of his second power up. His third form was capable of wrecking Piccolo completely, in both speed and power so 3 millions is a good ammount of power. That's a 1.66x gap between Piccolo and 3rd Freeza. But in his true form, his initial battle power was so much higher than his previous 3rd form level that Piccolo stated that even if Freeza looked smaller and far less scary, his 3rd form would be considered very cute compared to his new power. Don't judge a book by its cover.

Piccolo
~ initial battle power - 270,000
~ Super Namekian(initial battle power) - 1,200,000
~ Super Namekian(weighted full power) - 1,500,000
~ Super Namekian(unweighted) - 1,900,000

According to Nail, if Piccolo fused with Kami again he might be able to defeat Freeza, and Kamiccolo's boost is 2x, so he is rivaling Freeza with weights, stronger than Freeza without weights. His initial Super Namekian level is at least one million, considering that he was able to fight Second Power Up Freeza toe to toe. His unweighted form should be on par, if not a little stronger than Full Power 2nd Form Freeza.

Gohan
~ pre Zenkai - 240,000
~ attacking 2nd Form Freeza - 800,000
~ post Zenkai - 720,000
~ attacking 3rd Form Freeza - 1,440,000
~ Masenko - 2,200,000

Krillin
~ base - 200,000
~ powered up(potential increasing) - 540,000

On Yardrat

Goku
~ post Zenkai - 9,000,000

Yardratians
~ base - 5

Trunks Saga

Goku
~ base - 10,000,000
~ Super Saiyan - 500,000,000

Trunks
~ base - 9,000,000
~ Super Saiyan - 450,000,000

Mecha Freeza
~ initial - 230,000,000
~ full power(unseen) - 320,000,000

King Cold
~ full power - 230,000,000

Vegeta
~ full power - 6,000,000

Piccolo
~ full power - 6,000,000

Gohan
~ base - 800,000

Krillin
~ base - 800,000

Tenshinhan
~ full power - 100,000

Yamcha
~ full power - 60,000

Android Saga

Goku
~ base - 30,000,000
~ Super Saiyan(healthy) - 1,500,000,000
~ Super Saiyan(sick) - 800,000,000
~ Super Saiyan(sick) - 400,000,000
~ base(sick) - 8,000,000

Trunks
~ base - 28,000,000
~ Super Saiyan - 1,400,000,000

Vegeta
~ base - 32,000,000
~ Super Saiyan - 1,600,000,000
~ Big Bang Attack - 2,000,000,000

Piccolo
~ initial - 400,000,000
~ full power - 1,100,000,000

Android 20
~ initial - 520,000,000
~ post absorptions - 800,000,000

Android 19
~ initial - 500,000,000
~ post absorptions - 750,000,000

Krillin
~ full power - 6,000,000

Tenshinhan
~ full power - 3,000,000

Yamcha
~ full power - 1,200,000

Android 17
~ full power - 3,000,000,000

Android 18
~ toying with Vegeta - 1,800,000,000
~ full power - 2,800,000,000

Android 16
~ initial - 2,000,000,000

Cell Saga
Appearance of Cell

Cell
~ Imperfect, Ginger Town - 2,000,000,000
~ Imperfect, After Absorptions - 15,000,000,000
~ Semi-Perfect, Initial - 32,000,000,000
~ Semi-Perfect, Full Power - 48,000,000,000
~ Perfect, Initial - 64,000,000,000
~ Perfect, Warm Up - 160,000,000,000

Vegeta
~ base(post RoSaT) - 800,000,000
~ Super Saiyan - 40,000,000,000
~ Super Saiyan Grade 2 - 80,000,000,000
~ Final Flash - 180,000,000,000

Trunks
~ base - 750,000,000
~ Super Saiyan - 37,500,000,000
~ Super Saiyan Grade 2 - 74,000,000,000
~ Super Saiyan Grade 3(initial) - 112,000,000,000
~ Super Saiyan Grade 3(inexperienced power boost) - 200,000,000,000

Piccolo
~ post fusing with Kami(weighted) - 2,200,000,000
~ post fusing with Kami(unweighted) - 3,000,000,000
~ Gekiretsu Kodan - 9,000,000,000

The Cell Games

Goku
~ base - 20,000,000,000
~ Full-Power Super Saiyan(Warm Up) - 240,000,000,000
~ Full-Power Super Saiyan(50%) - 500,000,000,000
~ Full-Power Super Saiyan(All-Out) - 1,000,000,000,000

Cell expected someone stronger than Trunks at the very least, so Warm Up Goku > SSJG3 Trunks.

Gohan
~ base - 25,000,000,000
~ Full-Power Super Saiyan - 1,250,000,000,000
~ Super Saiyan 2 - 5,000,000,000,000
~ Super Kamehameha - 7,500,000,000,000
~ Father-Son Kamehameha - 10,000,000,000,000

Cell
~ initial - 240,000,000,000
~ vs. Goku(50%) - 560,000,000,000
~ vs. Goku(full power) - 1,200,000,000,000
~ True Speed - 1,250,000,000,000
~ Full Power - 2,500,000,000,000
~ Super Perfect - 5,000,000,000,000

Vegeta
~ base - 12,500,000,000
~ Super Saiyan - 625,000,000,000

Trunks
~ base - 12,000,000,000
~ Super Saiyan - 600,000,000,000

Piccolo
~ full power - 560,000,000,000

Cell Jr
~ full power - 630,000,000,000

I think your numbers are too bloated.
 

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Why it is bloated? It is implied that they're making solid gains each saga.
 

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Akira Toriyama's suggestion that Base Sayans are inferior to Organic Freeza heavily implies that gaps are not as large or as bloated as most of the population originally believed.
 
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