Toriyama may be the biggest detriment to Goku's character, not Toei.

DBZAOTA482

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People are all shifting blame on Toei for Goku's character derailment in modern Dragon Ball but I believe it all stated with Toriyama...

First, he mentions something about Goku only viewing his family as companions (even though we're shown otherwise in the original manga) while Vegeta actually loves his. This is a major red-flag as this is the first of him trying to write Goku as nothing more than a battle-obsessed idiot... in other words, unlikable and the fact that he more or less claims Vegeta as a loving family man makes him sound like some dirty Bulma x Vegeta fanboy.

Not only that but he also wrote Dragon Ball Minus which shits all over the anime special as well as everything previously established about Goku's backstory. Instead of being the low-class nobody he now had wuving parents who sent him to Earth for his safety rather than being fodder. This really cheapens Goku's character as it not only undermines the poetic justice behind him fulfilling the prophecy and avenging his people but it turns his backstory from inspired by Superman to a straight rip-off.

He also wrote for most of Resurrection F where Goku is portrayed as an overconfident idiot who drops his guard in the mist of battle even though this is was never a notable flaw for Goku beforehand and it also regresses him as Whis makes him learn things that he already should know ("moving without thinking"). Worst part is neither Goku or Vegeta learn a thing in the end... they still continue to be dickheads.

Lastly....

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This gem of a joke is even in the manga so it's probably all on Toriyama. It really gets to me not just for the fact he's minimizing Goku x Chi-Chi for Bulma x Vegeta and that shit pairing Trunks x Mai but the fact Goku never kissed despite having sex willingly at least twice and no matter how you look it, it's pretty much just another "lol goku is retarded!" joke.
 

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I don't have a problem with Goku not really giving a rats ass about his family outside of danger, there's plenty in the manga to support this. The fact Goku progressively becomes more and more selfish and battle-obsessed clinches it for me.

But I agree on the rest of things, F and Super are just straight up bad stories lacking in creativity for its arcs and for the character of Goku. I am increasingly convinced that the only reason Goku wasn't treated as a pants shitting idiot in BoG the movie is because Toriyama hijacked the script from a dude who was going to spotlight how Goku's selfishness is a bad thing.
 

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Goku still seemed like he regressed in character during BoG honestly, the old Goku was never overly sure of himself during Z after the Saiyan arc at the latest (quickly realized he was in over his head when Freeza embarrassed him at KKx10, openly admitted Cell was stronger after a quick look-see) yet Goku's reaction to getting told not to dial it down to SSJ2 from Beerus is pretty much the same as the one against Popo calling him weak. This is also after Kaio already told him he was nothing compared to Beerus which would at least cause Freeza arc Goku to doubt himself, and he got large power ups from gravity training and healing post-Ginyu so yeah...

I've got no problem with Minus shitting on the anime special as that one only had minimal :troll involvement, but the way he retconned Goku being sent to Earth to conquer it and coincidentally escaping Freeza's massacre is what's at fault. Along with... the Superman plagiarism yeah
 

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TBF, Toriyama is marketing Goku towards to the kids/teens demographic which makes sense lol.
 
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