Vegeta, Piccolo, Gohan VS Base Future Trunks

[Pyro]

Everybody is from the arrival of Mecha Freeza. Trunks cannot transform.

Round 1: In-character.
Round 2: Vegeta is being a team player.

 

[Void]

Round 1 is a loss for the team, but round 2 is a win. If Piccolo and Goku can manage Raditz then the trio can manage Future Trunks.

 

[Flame]

Team takes both rounds likely.

 

[ahill1]

I like to see Vegeta going up one level compared to his Freeza saga self, as that seems to fit well with the fact that he kept training (stated by Bulma, that Vegeta is never around at noon), but the still overall lack of information on his standing. I feel Piccolo is implied to be somewhat close to Vegeta due to he being still mentioned by Goku alongside Vegeta as someone who could have brought Freeza down, but still behind the Saiyajin, of course, as the status quo isn't implied to change.

Trunks, on the other hand, said that he was sure he'd bring Mecha Freeza down in seconds and even encouraged him and his father to go at him at full power, which tells me that Mecha Freeza, who should be on Namek ssj Goku's level based on his statement of 'maybe' taking down Goku alone, isn't much to Trunks, implying this latter is considerably above Namek Goku and therefore considerably above base Vegeta from the mecha freeza saga, whom I assumed to be at Namek Goku's level.

Said that, I think Trunks is likely to bring even Piccolo and Vegeta down when those two are fighting together, even moreso if Vegeta isn't willing to cooperate.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Trunks solos. Unlike Raditz he isn't one to play around and he has enough of a power advantage that he can one shot Vegeta before Piccolo can charge a Makankosappo powerful enough. If Gohan loses his shit the team may win though.

[mention]ahill1[/mention] how strong you think Piccolo, Vegeta and Gohan are by this point?

 

[ahill1]

Trunks solos. Unlike Raditz he isn't one to play around and he has enough of a power advantage that he can one shot Vegeta before Piccolo can charge a Makankosappo powerful enough. If Gohan loses his shit the team may win though.

@ahill1 how strong you think Piccolo, Vegeta and Gohan are by this point?

I think Vegeta got up one level compared to his Namek self, so at base Goku's level makes sense. Piccolo is somewhat close to Vegeta, but still behind cuz status quo. Gohan got considerably stronger after his last Zenkai on Namek, strong to the point Vegeta thought luck was returning to their side, even if by a little bit, so I like to see him approaching 1 million by Namek. Since Earth was in peace since then and Gohan isn't known for training in peace times, I think he remained as strong as he was on Namek, or even weakened some bit.

Vegeta -- 3,000,000
Piccolo -- 2,700,000
Gohan -- 900,000

 

[Void]

Base Trunks - 3,900,000
Veggie - 3,600,000
Piccoro - 3,200,000
Gohands - 1,500,000

Gohan is fodder for the most part, but I still think Vegeta and Piccolo can pull it off as a team.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

How strong those guys (And the earthlings) are is such a mystery to me. We know they're stronger than they were in Namek, but by how much?

 

[ahill1]

This is also a mystery to me. Kuririn is easier to figure out as we have a more solid evidence regarding his power, so his mecha freeza saga self could just be somewhat stronger than he was on Namek, as huge gains still weren't implied. Tenshinhan and Yamcha though are a total mystery to me. I think that so long as they are a good chuck below Kuririn, this is fine.