Vegeta SSJ God vs Kale and Hit

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Warmmeup said:
So could Hit take Toppo too?
Considering the hax from Cage of Time allowed him to prove slightly troublesome to Initial Jiren, Base Toppo would get wrecked. Hakaishin Toppo would likely win, but with more difficulty than it took Jiren.
 

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Jiren has implied that Toppo (at least in base form) would lose to Hit.

Hit wins alone.
 

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Keedounan said:
Jiren has implied that Toppo (at least in base form) would lose to Hit.

Hit wins alone.

What was the implication?
 

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SSJ2 said:
Keedounan said:
Jiren has implied that Toppo (at least in base form) would lose to Hit.

Hit wins alone.

What was the implication?

After getting rid of Hit, Jiren said that the warriors he was needed for (while looking at a weakened and injured Goku) were already gone, implying he was needed to defeat Hit (at least, if Toppo didn't use his GoD powers. After all, Jiren didn't expect him to use it).

And to be frank, when I see the trouble that the Cage of Time gave to Jiren (even suppressed), I heavily doubt Base Toppo would be capable of breaking out of it.
 

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Hit ~ SSJB tier >>> SSJG tier >>> Kale tier

Hit forces Kale to help Vegeta and whoops them both with ease.
 

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How strong even is Kale? She beats up SSJB Goku but loses to SSJG Goku in her controlled form?
 
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