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Well, in advance, I say, be prepared for this is the best list you will ever find. Like, almost flawless... close to perfection... crafted after years and years fighting in the trenches, debating all kind of crazy power levelers, figuring the level of effort put into each fight analysing the sweat droplets, faces expressions, by how inches the fighter dodged an attack, looking at all statements from the original manga and embracing all the heart a power leveler must have when crafting a definitive art. So if you wanna see and use this as basis for every power scaling, feel free to, for I am giving you guys this final gift.
Future Trunks arrives
Piccolo : 2,700,000
Vegeta : 3,000,000
King Cold : 100,000,000
Mecha Freeza : 160,000,000
SSJ Trunks : 240,000,000
SSJ Goku : 270,000,000
Androids arrive
Yamcha : 2,000,000
Tenshinhan : 3,000,000
Kuririn : 4,000,000
Gohan : 6,000,000
Piccolo 370,000,000
SSJ Goku (sick) : 310,000,000
-- 100% : 465,000,000
Android 19 : 230,000,000
-- post KMHMH : 287,500,000
-- post weak Goku : 290,000,000
Android 20 : 260,000,000
-- post Vegeta's blast : 280,000,000
-- post supp. piccolo : 310,000,000
SSJ Vegeta : 480,000,000
SSJ future Trunks : 427,000,000
Android 18 : 650,000,000
Android 17 : 740,000,000
Piccolo (post kami) : 740,000,000
--- with weights : 667,000,000
Imperfect Cell (initially) : 530,000,000
Imperfect Cell (post absorptions) : 1,480,000,000
Android #16 : 1,480,000,000
Semi Cell (initially) : 3,000,000,000
--- FP : 3,600,000,000
SSJ Vegeta (post RoSaT) : 3,375,000,000
--- SSJG2 : 5,400,000,000
SSJ future Trunks : 3,200,000,000
-- SSJG2 : 5,120,000,000
Perfect Cell (initially) : 4,800,000,000
-- spanking Vegeta : 11,000,000,000
Future Trunks SSJG3 : 15,000,000,000
--- speed : 500,000,000
[10x boost for SSJg3 via El Manga Legendario]
Goku (mid RoSaT training)
-- SSJ : 740,000,000
-- SSJg2 : 1,185,000,000
-- SSJg3 : 3,500,000,000
"about 50%" MSSJ Goku : 11,000,000,000
--- Cell Games
Android #16 : 1,480,000,000
Piccolo : 11,000,000,000
SSJ Vegeta : 13,200,000,000
SSJ Future Trunks : 12,800,000,000
Cell Junior : 13,500,000,000
100% MSSJ Goku : 22,000,000,000
Perfect Cell [vs goku] : 24,200,000,000
MSSJ Gohan : 27,000,000,000
Cell (true speed) : 28,800,000,000
Cell (maximum power) : 45,000,000,000
SSJ2 Gohan (little rage boost on top) : 81,000,000,000
[SSJ2 amp is 2.5x to me, but Gohan got a 3x one due to a cherry on top rage boost]
Super Perfect Cell : 72,000,000,000
[2.5x his SSJ-like power, the multiplier I use for SSJ2. I see the power he used vs Goku and Gohan as his natural SSJ power... and his full power more or less a grade 2 kind of power, due to the similarities in the auras and the bulking up... tho his SSJ2-alike power up would multiply by 2.5x the power he has as a "SSJ"... which still leaves him a little behind Gohan due to this latter getting a moderate rage boost on top, not big rage boost but enough to be considered]
-- back to the future
Future 18 : 480,000,000
Future 17 : 540,000,000
-- less than half : 200,000,000
Future Gohan (1 arm)
--- SSJ : 220,000,000
Future Trunks (coming back) : 512,000,000
--- SSJ : 12,800,000,000
Post 3 years
Future Trunks : 640,000,000
--- SSJ : 16,000,000,000
Future Cell : 1,300,000,000
[SSJ multiplier reduced from 50x to 25x post mastering SSJ]
----- Boo saga
Mr. Satan : 7
Videl : 9
Spopovich : 12
Kuririn : 4,000,000
Pui Pui : 40,000,000
Android 18 : 650,000,000
Yakon : 1,440,000,000
Piccolo : 11,000,000,000
Goten : 500,000,000
-- SSJ : 12,500,000,000
Kid Trunks : 512,000,000
--- SSJ : 12,800,000,000
Gohan : 880,000,000
-- SSJ : 22,000,000,000
-- SSJ2 : 55,000,000,000
---> vs Dabra : 41,000,000,000
[Was in a transient state... Not quite a SSJ2, but halfway there to tap such power]
Vegeta : 1,152,000,000
-- SSJ : 28,800,000,000
-- SSJ2 : 72,000,000,000
Goku : 1,480,000,000
-- SSJ : 37,000,000,000
-- SSJ2 : 92,500,000,000
Majin Vegeta SSJ2 : 90,000,000,000
Shin : 20,000,000,000
Dabura : 45,000,000,000
Fat Boo (initially) : 60,000,000,000
--- angry : 110,000,000,000
--- super angry vs Vegeta : 200,000,000,000
--- full power : 300,000,000,000
SSJ3 Goku : 370,000,000,000
Base Gotenks (pre RoSaT) : 45,000,000,000
--- SSJ : 450,000,000,000
[SSJ decreased from 25x to 10x for fusions. SSJ2 is 2x instead of 2.5x and SSJ3 remains the same... Basically my theory that the stronger the warrior get and the closer they're to their full potential, more their base states get close to their SSJ until they reach a final state, akin to Ultimate Gohan, in which all their transformations are stocked into their base powers, no longer having the need to transform to bring forth such power. Gohan was seen as the Ultimate Warrior and went through to the final evolutionary state of Saiyans... So when you get to a limit yourself, the training is moreso ditected to access all that power without the need to transform... Goku in the end of Z for example, was already pretty close to that... Assuming his SSJ3 was already nearing his limits, his base state would be already way closer to his higher up states, to the point he was already in the stage to have his base power access all the power bestowed by the transformations]
Post RoSaT
Kid Trunks : 700,000,000
--- SSJ : 14,000,000,000
Goten : 680,000,000
--- SSJ : 13,675,000,000
Super Boo (initially) : 900,000,000,000
Base Gotenks : 100,000,000,000
--- SSJ : 1,000,000,000,000
--- SSJ2 : 2,000,000,000,000
--- SSJ3 : 8,000,000,000,000
[SSJ2 is 2x for fusions... SSJ3 stays the same]
Super Boo (FP) : 8,000,000,000,000
Ultimate Gohan : 12,000,000,000,000
Tenshinhan : 3,500,000
Boo-Gotenks : 16,000,000,000,000
Boo-Gohan : 20,000,000,000,000
Vegetto : 4,000,000,000,000
--- SSJ : 40,000,000,000,000
Buff Boo : 10,000,000,000,000
Kid Boo : 360,000,000,000
SSJ3 Goku : 360,000,000,000
SSJ2 Vegeta : 90,000,000,000
Mr. Boo : 300,000,000,000
Kibitoshin : 70,000,000,000
10 years later
Piccolo : 13,000,000,000
Goten : 700,000,000
--- SSJ : 14,000,000,000
Trunks: 720,000,000
--- SSJ : 14,400,000,000
Mr. Boo : 300,000,000,000
Oob (enraged) : 360,000,000,000
Goku : 350,000,000,000
Vegeta : 300,000,000,000
SSJ Goku : 875,000,000
SSJ2 Goku : 1,750,000,000,000
SSJ3 Goku : 7,000,000,000,000
[That would be Goku's ultimate limit... With his base state already approaching his SSJs states a lot... And so the training would be bringing his base state to the 7,000,000,000,000 PL, while his transformed states have already brought out all he could achieve in his life training]
SSJ Vegeta : 750,000,000,000
SSJ2 Vegeta : 1,500,000,000,000
[Also Vegeta's utmost limit... With his upcoming training being bringing his base to his SSJ2 power, reaching the final stage Saiyans evolution]
They bridged the gap a lot, specially Goku, who was pretty close to SSJ3 Gotenks and Super Boo, but still couldn't be quite on their level, nor Ultimate Gohan's, due to the potential of fusion and Gohan's, as plateaus not accessible to Goku for more that he trained. Still, reached an impressive, huge power all on his own, not depending of anything like power unlock.
Future Trunks arrives
Piccolo : 2,700,000
Vegeta : 3,000,000
King Cold : 100,000,000
Mecha Freeza : 160,000,000
SSJ Trunks : 240,000,000
SSJ Goku : 270,000,000
Androids arrive
Yamcha : 2,000,000
Tenshinhan : 3,000,000
Kuririn : 4,000,000
Gohan : 6,000,000
Piccolo 370,000,000
SSJ Goku (sick) : 310,000,000
-- 100% : 465,000,000
Android 19 : 230,000,000
-- post KMHMH : 287,500,000
-- post weak Goku : 290,000,000
Android 20 : 260,000,000
-- post Vegeta's blast : 280,000,000
-- post supp. piccolo : 310,000,000
SSJ Vegeta : 480,000,000
SSJ future Trunks : 427,000,000
Android 18 : 650,000,000
Android 17 : 740,000,000
Piccolo (post kami) : 740,000,000
--- with weights : 667,000,000
Imperfect Cell (initially) : 530,000,000
Imperfect Cell (post absorptions) : 1,480,000,000
Android #16 : 1,480,000,000
Semi Cell (initially) : 3,000,000,000
--- FP : 3,600,000,000
SSJ Vegeta (post RoSaT) : 3,375,000,000
--- SSJG2 : 5,400,000,000
SSJ future Trunks : 3,200,000,000
-- SSJG2 : 5,120,000,000
Perfect Cell (initially) : 4,800,000,000
-- spanking Vegeta : 11,000,000,000
Future Trunks SSJG3 : 15,000,000,000
--- speed : 500,000,000
[10x boost for SSJg3 via El Manga Legendario]
Goku (mid RoSaT training)
-- SSJ : 740,000,000
-- SSJg2 : 1,185,000,000
-- SSJg3 : 3,500,000,000
"about 50%" MSSJ Goku : 11,000,000,000
--- Cell Games
Android #16 : 1,480,000,000
Piccolo : 11,000,000,000
SSJ Vegeta : 13,200,000,000
SSJ Future Trunks : 12,800,000,000
Cell Junior : 13,500,000,000
100% MSSJ Goku : 22,000,000,000
Perfect Cell [vs goku] : 24,200,000,000
MSSJ Gohan : 27,000,000,000
Cell (true speed) : 28,800,000,000
Cell (maximum power) : 45,000,000,000
SSJ2 Gohan (little rage boost on top) : 81,000,000,000
[SSJ2 amp is 2.5x to me, but Gohan got a 3x one due to a cherry on top rage boost]
Super Perfect Cell : 72,000,000,000
[2.5x his SSJ-like power, the multiplier I use for SSJ2. I see the power he used vs Goku and Gohan as his natural SSJ power... and his full power more or less a grade 2 kind of power, due to the similarities in the auras and the bulking up... tho his SSJ2-alike power up would multiply by 2.5x the power he has as a "SSJ"... which still leaves him a little behind Gohan due to this latter getting a moderate rage boost on top, not big rage boost but enough to be considered]
-- back to the future
Future 18 : 480,000,000
Future 17 : 540,000,000
-- less than half : 200,000,000
Future Gohan (1 arm)
--- SSJ : 220,000,000
Future Trunks (coming back) : 512,000,000
--- SSJ : 12,800,000,000
Post 3 years
Future Trunks : 640,000,000
--- SSJ : 16,000,000,000
Future Cell : 1,300,000,000
[SSJ multiplier reduced from 50x to 25x post mastering SSJ]
----- Boo saga
Mr. Satan : 7
Videl : 9
Spopovich : 12
Kuririn : 4,000,000
Pui Pui : 40,000,000
Android 18 : 650,000,000
Yakon : 1,440,000,000
Piccolo : 11,000,000,000
Goten : 500,000,000
-- SSJ : 12,500,000,000
Kid Trunks : 512,000,000
--- SSJ : 12,800,000,000
Gohan : 880,000,000
-- SSJ : 22,000,000,000
-- SSJ2 : 55,000,000,000
---> vs Dabra : 41,000,000,000
[Was in a transient state... Not quite a SSJ2, but halfway there to tap such power]
Vegeta : 1,152,000,000
-- SSJ : 28,800,000,000
-- SSJ2 : 72,000,000,000
Goku : 1,480,000,000
-- SSJ : 37,000,000,000
-- SSJ2 : 92,500,000,000
Majin Vegeta SSJ2 : 90,000,000,000
Shin : 20,000,000,000
Dabura : 45,000,000,000
Fat Boo (initially) : 60,000,000,000
--- angry : 110,000,000,000
--- super angry vs Vegeta : 200,000,000,000
--- full power : 300,000,000,000
SSJ3 Goku : 370,000,000,000
Base Gotenks (pre RoSaT) : 45,000,000,000
--- SSJ : 450,000,000,000
[SSJ decreased from 25x to 10x for fusions. SSJ2 is 2x instead of 2.5x and SSJ3 remains the same... Basically my theory that the stronger the warrior get and the closer they're to their full potential, more their base states get close to their SSJ until they reach a final state, akin to Ultimate Gohan, in which all their transformations are stocked into their base powers, no longer having the need to transform to bring forth such power. Gohan was seen as the Ultimate Warrior and went through to the final evolutionary state of Saiyans... So when you get to a limit yourself, the training is moreso ditected to access all that power without the need to transform... Goku in the end of Z for example, was already pretty close to that... Assuming his SSJ3 was already nearing his limits, his base state would be already way closer to his higher up states, to the point he was already in the stage to have his base power access all the power bestowed by the transformations]
Post RoSaT
Kid Trunks : 700,000,000
--- SSJ : 14,000,000,000
Goten : 680,000,000
--- SSJ : 13,675,000,000
Super Boo (initially) : 900,000,000,000
Base Gotenks : 100,000,000,000
--- SSJ : 1,000,000,000,000
--- SSJ2 : 2,000,000,000,000
--- SSJ3 : 8,000,000,000,000
[SSJ2 is 2x for fusions... SSJ3 stays the same]
Super Boo (FP) : 8,000,000,000,000
Ultimate Gohan : 12,000,000,000,000
Tenshinhan : 3,500,000
Boo-Gotenks : 16,000,000,000,000
Boo-Gohan : 20,000,000,000,000
Vegetto : 4,000,000,000,000
--- SSJ : 40,000,000,000,000
Buff Boo : 10,000,000,000,000
Kid Boo : 360,000,000,000
SSJ3 Goku : 360,000,000,000
SSJ2 Vegeta : 90,000,000,000
Mr. Boo : 300,000,000,000
Kibitoshin : 70,000,000,000
10 years later
Piccolo : 13,000,000,000
Goten : 700,000,000
--- SSJ : 14,000,000,000
Trunks: 720,000,000
--- SSJ : 14,400,000,000
Mr. Boo : 300,000,000,000
Oob (enraged) : 360,000,000,000
Goku : 350,000,000,000
Vegeta : 300,000,000,000
SSJ Goku : 875,000,000
SSJ2 Goku : 1,750,000,000,000
SSJ3 Goku : 7,000,000,000,000
[That would be Goku's ultimate limit... With his base state already approaching his SSJs states a lot... And so the training would be bringing his base state to the 7,000,000,000,000 PL, while his transformed states have already brought out all he could achieve in his life training]
SSJ Vegeta : 750,000,000,000
SSJ2 Vegeta : 1,500,000,000,000
[Also Vegeta's utmost limit... With his upcoming training being bringing his base to his SSJ2 power, reaching the final stage Saiyans evolution]
They bridged the gap a lot, specially Goku, who was pretty close to SSJ3 Gotenks and Super Boo, but still couldn't be quite on their level, nor Ultimate Gohan's, due to the potential of fusion and Gohan's, as plateaus not accessible to Goku for more that he trained. Still, reached an impressive, huge power all on his own, not depending of anything like power unlock.
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