Freezamite, i made a list for your taste

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KING KAI'S PLANET

Piccolo
-weighted: 125.000 (half of Freeza's suppression Nail fought)
-unweighted: 150.000

Tenshinhan: 80.000

Yamcha: 50.000

Chaozu: 10.000

FREEZA SAGA

Freeza 1st form
-initial (Nail): 250.000
-powered up (Vegeta): 400.000
-max: 530.000 (maybe he went max when he blew off jacket, maybe he didn't, lol)

Vegeta: 400.000

Gohan
-normal: 25.000 and rising
-enraged: 750.000

Krillin: 25.000 and rising

Freeza 2nd form
-initial: 700.000
-powered up: 875.000
-max: 1.050.000

Piccolo
-weighted: 930.000
-unweighted: 1.085.000

Freeza 3rd form
-initial (Piccolo): 1.300.000
-max (Gohan): 1.500.000

Gohan (post zenkai)
-normal: 50.000
-enraged: 1.200.000
-massenko: 1.440.000

Vegeta (post zenkai): 2.000.000 (base power limit)
-planet buster: 3.000.000-

Freeza 4th form
-initial: 2.000.000
-speed up: 2.400.000
-no hands: 3.300.000
-half power: 7.500.000
-half power (injured): 2.000.000
-max (injured): 3.200.000 and decreasing
-unseen max: 12.000.000

Goku: 300.000 (base power limit)
-8x KK: 2.400.000 (used to warm up)
-10x KK: 3.000.000 (used against no hands Freeza)
-post beating: 240.000
-20x KK: 4.800.000
-20x KK KHH: 7.200.000
-post more beating: 30.000
-SSJ (rejuvenated): 3.000.000

MECHA FREEZA SAGA

Freeza
-initial: 2.250.000
-unseen max: 13.500.000

King Cold: 2.250.000

Vegeta: 2.000.000

Piccolo: 1.250.000

Tenshinhan: 120.000

Chaozu: 13.500

Krillin: 50.000

Yamcha: 60.000

Gohan: 50.000

Alternate Trunks: 2.100.000 (base power limit)
-SSJ: 3.000.000

Goku: 300.000
-SSJ: 3.000.000

ANDROIDS SAGA

Gohan: 1.200.000 (base power limit)

Tenshinhan: 200.000 (power limit)

Krillin: 100.000

Yamcha: 100.000

Goku: 300.000
-SSJ: 3.000.000
-sick: 1.500.000

Alternate Trunks: 2.100.000
-SSJ: 3.000.000

Vegeta: 2.000.000
-SSJ: 3.200.000

Piccolo: 2.000.000

Nineteen: 800.000
-post Goku: 1.600.000

Twenty: 1.600.000
-post energy: 1.800.000

Eighteen: 3.600.000

Seventeen: 4.000.000

Kamiccolo
-weighted: 3.600.000
-unweighted: 4.000.000
-post Seventeen: 3.750.000
-post Cell's beating: 3.000.000
-light grenade: 4.500.000

Imperfect Cell
-initial: 3.200.000
-post humans: 4.500.000

Sixteen: 4.500.000

Semi Cell
-initial: 6.000.000
-max: 7.500.000

Vegeta post: 2.000.000
-SSJ: 6.000.000
-ASSJ: 10.000.000

Alternate Trunks post: 2.100.000
-SSJ: 6.000.000
-ASSJ: 9.500.000
-USSJ: 12.500.000

Perfect Cell
-initial: 9.000.000
-warm up: 15.000.000

CELL GAMES

Goku: 300.000
-SSJ warm up: 14.000.000
-SSJ half power: 17.500.000
-SSJ max: 35.000.000 (SSJ power limit)

Piccolo: 16.000.000 (power limit)

Cell Jrs: 19.000.000

Vegeta: 2.000.000
-SSJ: 20.000.000

Alternate Trunks: 2.100.000
SSJ: 18.000.000

Perfect Cell
-warm up: 15.000.000
-powered up: 35.000.000-40.000.000 (fluctuates with effort)
-max: 60.000.000
-post zenkai: 75.000.000

Gohan: 1.200.000
-SSJ: 40.000.000 (SSJ power limit)
-SSJ2: 80.000.000

BUU SAGA

Piccolo: 16.000.000

Kaioshin: 20.000.000

Kibito: 600.000

Gohan: 1.200.000
-SSJ: 40.000.000
-SSJ2 (weakened): 60.000.000
-SSJ2 (max/rage): 80.000.000
-SSJ2 (post sword): 120.000.000 (SSJ2 power limit)

Vegeta: 2.000.000
-SSJ: 45.000.000 (SSJ power limit)
-SSJ2 (pre majin): 80.000.000
-SSJ2 (post majin): 100.000.000

Goku: 300.000
-SSJ: 35.000.000
-SSJ2: 100.000.000
-SSJ3: 200.000.000

Goten: 3.250.000 (base power limit)
-SSJ: 30.000.000

Trunks: 3.500.000 (base power limit)
-SSJ: 30.000.000

Pocus: 150.000

Yakon: 300.000

Dabura: 40.000.000

Fat Buu: 150.000.000 (2.5x Weakened SSJ2 Gohan)

Grey Buu: 200.000.000

Super Buu: 350.000.000

Gotenks pre: 105.000.000 (3.5x SSJ Goten)
-SSJ: 140.000.000

Goten post: 3.250.000
-SSJ: 37.500.000

Trunks post: 3.500.000
-SSJ: 37.500.000

Gotenks post: 150.000.000 (4x SSJ Goten)
-SSJ: 200.000.000
-SSJ3: 375.000.000

Ultimate Gohan: 400.000.000

Buuhan: 750.000.000

Vegetto: 800.000.000 (4x SSJ3 Goku)
-SSJ: 1.000.000.000

Kibitoshin: 80.000.000 (4x Kaioshin)

Kid Buu: 200.000.000

 

[Super Neko Majin Z]

Why is everyone's base limit different? There should be one limit or else it doesn't make any sense. (This is more for Freezamite than you, but I thought I'd say it anyway)

 

[Zippy]

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Why is everyone's base limit different? There should be one limit or else it doesn't make any sense. (This is more for Freezamite than you, but I thought I'd say it anyway)

Because the plot says so. In universe, i think it makes sense for Goku, who's low class, to have a lower base limit
than Vegeta.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Why is everyone's base limit different? There should be one limit or else it doesn't make any sense. (This is more for Freezamite than you, but I thought I'd say it anyway)

Because the plot says so. In universe, i think it makes sense for Goku, who's low class, to have a lower base limit
than Vegeta.

Vegeta thought Goku was a Super Saiyan as soon as he arrived on the battlefield, before he even fought Freeza at all. Even assuming this base limit thing is real, Goku's base limit would still be above Vegeta's. This is also seen later on in the Boo saga when Vegeta needs to be taken beyond his limits to match Goku's SSj2, even though it stands to reason that if Goku's base limit is lower than Vegeta's, then his SSj2 should be lower as well.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Goku was using his kaioken (if we go with the ''300.000 PL'' theory), so that's what
Vegeta perceived as power greater than his.
Yes, for some reason, even though his base limit is lower, the plot indicates his
SSJ2 limit is higher than Vegeta's, at least according to the logic i used in this
list.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Vegeta thought Goku was a Super Saiyan before he did any fighting at all.

Chapter: 307 (DBZ 113), P8.2-3
Vegeta: “He’s not the same Kakarot as before…S-seems he’s finally overcome the wall of his limits…Is he a Super Saiyan…!?”

Unless you think Goku was using the Kaio-ken x10 while talking with Piccolo, Kuririn, and Gohan, then base Goku should be > base Vegeta.

 

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Vegeta could just feel it.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

You'll have to provide evidence for that claim. In any case, there is a lot of other evidence against Goku using the Kaioken x10 at the start of the fight, such as Piccolo stating that Goku is not taking the fight seriously, and Goku himself stating that he is only warming up. In every other case, Goku has only used the Kaioken in desperate situations, and he was certainly not warming up or not serious there.

 

[Super Neko Majin Z]

Has Freezamite actually seen this yet? This is starting to look like the biggest hole in his theories and I want to see what he thinks.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

He hasn't been active since yesterday early morning.

 

[Zippy]

Mecha frieza shouldnt have a single glimmer of doubt if namek goku was only 3Mill as an ssj..

 

[freezamite]

Why is everyone's base limit different? There should be one limit or else it doesn't make any sense. (This is more for Freezamite than you, but I thought I'd say it anyway)

What? In real life every single person has a different limit as to what can achieve, and nothing in DB implies that is different there (in fact, the opposite is implied, with Vegeta being a high class warrior and Goku a low class one, Freezer being incredibly powerful even for his species, etc.).

Vegeta thought Goku was a Super Saiyan as soon as he arrived on the battlefield, before he even fought Freeza at all. Even assuming this base limit thing is real, Goku's base limit would still be above Vegeta's. This is also seen later on in the Boo saga when Vegeta needs to be taken beyond his limits to match Goku's SSj2, even though it stands to reason that if Goku's base limit is lower than Vegeta's, then his SSj2 should be lower as well.

Vegeta thought Goku was a SSJ because Goku improved a lot and (as for what Vegeta knew at that moment) surpassed him (Vegeta didn't know Goku had been training with 100G and had 6 zenkays in the process), but that means nothing considering even Vegeta didn't exactly know what a SSJ was except for what the legend said.

Then, regarding of your claim of SSJ2 Vegeta's having to be stronger, that's not supported by the manga. In fact, the whole "SSJ forms are like activating the KK" is precisely the reason the guides are bullshit when it comes to power scaling.
The SSJ forms are always portrayed as something that wasn't fix, something that depended on one's ability to control his ki (that's why Cell tournament SSJ Goku was much stronger than Androids SSJ Goku) and we know that Goku's Ki control >>>>>> average z-warrior >>>>> Vegeta's ki control.

So in the same way Vegeta's SSJ was much below Goku SSJ despite Vegeta being arguably stronger in his base state, the same applies to their SSJ2.

Chapter: 307 (DBZ 113), P8.2-3
Vegeta: “He’s not the same Kakarot as before…S-seems he’s finally overcome the wall of his limits…Is he a Super Saiyan…!?”

Unless you think Goku was using the Kaio-ken x10 while talking with Piccolo, Kuririn, and Gohan, then base Goku should be > base Vegeta.

Two things regarding that:
1. That wasn't the limit of Vegeta's base state, he still had another Zenkay and maybe even a bit of margin of improvement over that.
2. At that point Vegeta was already stronger than Goku. He wasn't aware of that because he just had a zenkay, but he could follow Goku's speed and later he proved to be much above Goku when he fought 4th form Freezer (1st form if you count them in the order we see them).

In any case, there is a lot of other evidence against Goku using the Kaioken x10 at the start of the fight, such as Piccolo stating that Goku is not taking the fight seriously, and Goku himself stating that he is only warming up.

Since Goku could reach as far as the KKx20, him using the KKx10 since the beginning and stating that he still had more energy to use is perfectly plausible. On the other hand, if he didn't have the KKx10 since the beginning of Freezer's fight, it's impossible for that fight to make any sense.

I'll comment on the list tomorrow since today I don't have much time but I like it in general terms. It maybe gets a bit too high in the Android and Bu sagas for my tastes (well, more than "tastes" is of how the characters compare to themselves compared to how they do it in previous sagas where more data is given).

 

[Zippy]

Vegeta thought goku was ssj becauase he had improved alot all the while still being weaker than
the power vegeta initially thought was that of a ssj.

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[freezamite]

Vegeta thought goku was ssj becauase he had improved alot all the while still being weaker than
the power vegeta initially thought was that of a ssj.

k

I would appreciate less condescending responses considering that you're unable to understand what you're answering to. No, that's not what I'm saying and it's obvious that this doesn't have much sense.

Vegeta only knew that a SSJ appeared once every 1000 years, that it surpassed all the limits a saiyan warrior could never surpass no matter how gifted he was, and that it was an implacable and violent warrior.

Of course, Vegeta didn't know what was this "limit" that no other saiyan could surpass, and since for what Vegeta knew at the moment Goku was stronger than any saiyan he had known before, he speculated if Goku was already a SSJ.
What I'm saying is that at THAT POINT (in other words, when Vegeta is observing Goku fight) Vegeta has already surpassed Goku in strength, it's just that he still wasn't aware of it because he just had a zenkai and he still didn't had the chance to check how powerful he had become.

So, since Vegeta didn't know anything about the SSJ besides that it was a very strong and violent saiyan, he speculated all the time with the possibility of there being a SSJ (he was convinced he was a SSJ before his fight against Freezer as well) every time he thought a saiyan was close to surpass the limits of what a saiyan could.

Now, regarding the list, I'll comment on the Namek part and the rest for when I have a bit more time:

FREEZA SAGA

Freeza 1st form: 500.000

Vegeta: 500.000

500.000 for 1st form Freezer (well, 530.000 to be exact) it's ok, but I think Vegeta is a bit too high, I would put him at 300.000-350.000
Even if Freezer powered up, I don't think he used all his strength considering that after his collision with Vegeta he wasn't tired at all while Vegeta was. Freezer just triggered the transformation because Vegeta already knew about it, it wasn't like when he fought Piccolo that he had to transform to not loose against him.

Gohan
-normal: 250.000
-enraged: 750.000

Freeza 2nd form
-initial: 700.000
-powered up: 875.000
-max: 1.050.000

From here I would only change normal Gohan. Without being enraged, he wasn't able to follow Goku's movements at 60.000 units of strength and he had to fight with Krilin in order to defeat Ginew at 23.000, and considering how the fight went his power before enraging should be at around 25.000 more or less.

Freeza 3rd form: 1.500.000

Gohan (post zenkai)
-normal: 800.000
-enraged: 1.200.000
-massenko: 1.500.000

Vegeta (post zenkai): 2.000.000 (base power limit)

I think those numbers are a bit too high for normal and enraged Gohan. I would put normal Gohan at 50.000-60.000, enraged Gohan at 850.000 (a bit below Piccolo) and the massenko as you've said at 1.450.000 seems ok (if Freezer was at 1.500.000, the massenko should be a tad lower since Freezer was able to overpower the attack with his physical strength alone).

Regarding Vegeta, I think he should be lower than 2.000.000. More like 1.500.000 to 1.600.000.

Freeza 4th form
-initial: 2.000.000
-speed up: 2.400.000
-no hands: 3.000.000
-half power: 6.000.000
-half power (injured): 1.600.000
-max (injured): 3.200.000 and decreasing
-unseen max: 12.000.000

Goku: 300.000 (base power limit)
-8x KK: 2.400.000 (used to warm up)
-10x KK: 3.000.000 (used against no hands Freeza)
-post beating: 240.000
-20x KK: 4.800.000
-20x KK KHH: 6.400.000
-post more beating: 30.000
-SSJ (rejuvenated): 3.000.000

Regarding Freezer, I don't think he powered up so many times. Against Vegeta he increased his speed, but I think that wasn't done through powering up but through him simply moving faster than he was until that point (as if I were running slowly and then I made a sprint). And the same for when Goku appears.
So 4th form Freezer would be:
Initial 3.150.000
half power: 6.300.000
unseen max: 11.800.000 (his body wasn't used to that kind of effort, and in order to use his maximum power his body mass increased above normal, which in DB terms means that even if his perceived Ki effectively doubled, his real BP while at 100% should be lower than because of a decreased speed. That's besides him becoming tired faster than usual as well).

Goku on the other hand:
10x KK 3.000.000 (I don't think he used an inferior level of KK to warm up. I mean, in real life we also warm up without even being able to increase our strength, and a KK activation in the middle of the fight without it having any impact on it or it being stated breaks a bit the style Toriyama had of portraying a fight).
I like the rest of your numbers although after the 20x KK KHH Goku still had to use the KK. Freezer didn't want to kill Goku but if Goku went from KKx20 to his base power since Freezer wouldn't be able to notice it Goku would've been killed in a single hit.

In his SSJ form, I also think that a bit below 3.000.000 is better for Namek Goku, but only a tad below (at around 2.900.000 or 2.950.000, I know it's a small difference and that it's basically the same, but it's easier to powerscale from those numbers in the Cell saga).

Well, those would be my changes for the Freezer, saga! I'd like to see if you agree on them or not and why!

 

[Zippy]

The statement is pre fight so he had all the time of comparason before he made the statement.

Vegeta could sense both himself and goku he knew how strong they both were. Simply saying he didnt have a chance is out of question. Everytime a high bp or a notable one appears in the series it is sensed instantly.

 

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1. 500.000 for 1st form Freezer (well, 530.000 to be exact) it's ok, but I think Vegeta is a bit too high, I would put him at 300.000-350.000
Even if Freezer powered up, I don't think he used all his strength considering that after his collision with Vegeta he wasn't tired at all while Vegeta was. Freezer just triggered the transformation because Vegeta already knew about it, it wasn't like when he fought Piccolo that he had to transform to not loose against him.
2. From here I would only change normal Gohan. Without being enraged, he wasn't able to follow Goku's movements at 60.000 units of strength and he had to fight with Krilin in order to defeat Ginew at 23.000, and considering how the fight went his power before enraging should be at around 25.000 more or less.
3. I think those numbers are a bit too high for normal and enraged Gohan. I would put normal Gohan at 50.000-60.000, enraged Gohan at 850.000 (a bit below Piccolo) and the massenko as you've said at 1.450.000 seems ok (if Freezer was at 1.500.000, the massenko should be a tad lower since Freezer was able to overpower the attack with his physical strength alone).
4. Regarding Vegeta, I think he should be lower than 2.000.000. More like 1.500.000 to 1.600.000.
5. Regarding Freezer, I don't think he powered up so many times. Against Vegeta he increased his speed, but I think that wasn't done through powering up but through him simply moving faster than he was until that point (as if I were running slowly and then I made a sprint). And the same for when Goku appears.
6. His body wasn't used to that kind of effort, and in order to use his maximum power his body mass increased above normal, which in DB terms means that even if his perceived Ki effectively doubled, his real BP while at 100% should be lower than because of a decreased speed. That's besides him becoming tired faster than usual as well.
7. 10x KK 3.000.000 (I don't think he used an inferior level of KK to warm up. I mean, in real life we also warm up without even being able to increase our strength, and a KK activation in the middle of the fight without it having any impact on it or it being stated breaks a bit the style Toriyama had of portraying a fight).

1. I'll lower him to 400.000 Do you think Freeza powered up to 530.000 when he blew off his jacket, which is why Vegeta mistook it
for the transformation?
2. This Gohan was already higher than the one who fought Ginyus, because Vegeta stated his power was continuously rising. Also, he
talked about the ''brat having great power without realizing it'', and that was before seeing Gohan's rage.
3. After zenkai, Gohan wasn't mad anymore, yet Vegeta stated he was stronger than before, so Non Enraged Gohan (post zenkai)>
Enraged Gohan (pre zenkai)
4. Vegeta was implied to be a good deal above 3rd form Freeza, or he wouldn't be confident at taking 4th form.
5. Yes, i think his initial power was 3m all the time, i just showed the various levels of effort he used.
6. I thought the whole point of your lists was to hax Freeza. Whatever, let's just say he started with double of what he was, but was
rapidly falling.
7. I just think it's more logical to use lower power against Freeza's lower effort.

 

[freezamite]

The statement is pre fight so he had all the time of comparason before he made the statement.

Vegeta could sense both himself and goku he knew how strong they both were. Simply saying he didnt have a chance is out of question. Everytime a high bp or a notable one appears in the series it is sensed instantly.

Yes, that's why Perfect Cell, once he sensed Gohan's SSJ2, withdrew the fight peacefully understanding that he didn't have any chance to win.
Or why Vegeta also didn't try to fight against Freezer, because he could sense his power without using it and already knew he would be unable to win.

Look, that's clearly not how it works. Power sensing is not a scoutter telling you how strong anyone is (and even with a scoutter it would be impossible to sense the power one hasn't still displayed), so stop using that logic because it clearly contradicts what was shown in the manga.

Vegeta didn't know how powerful he was at that moment even if he obviously knew that he was stronger than before because he knew about the zenkays.
So Vegeta simply saw a saiyan that had surpassed everything he thought a saiyan was capable of, and speculated about the possibility of him being a SSJ. We know for sure that Vegeta was already stronger than Goku when he was speculating if Goku was a SSJ, so your whole argument based on Goku having to be stronger than Vegeta in his base state because of that falls by its own weight when it can be proved that Vegeta, at that point, was already much stronger than Goku.

From Vegeta's perspective, what he said made sense, and that of course doesn't mean that it was the absolute truth. In DB the characters weren't omniscient, accept it.

1. I'll lower him to 400.000 Do you think Freeza powered up to 530.000 when he blew off his jacket, which is why Vegeta mistook it for the transformation?

No, I don't think so. He simply tore of his jacket but nobody commented on his power increasing nor anything like that.

2. This Gohan was already higher than the one who fought Ginyus, because Vegeta stated his power was continuously rising. Also, he talked about the ''brat having great power without realizing it'', and that was before seeing Gohan's rage.

Gohan's power was constinuously rising for the same reasons both Vegeta and Goku's power were doing the same, the zenkays. But Gohan didn't have any zenkay after he fought Ginyu because he wasn't injured in that fight, and even if he didn't go all out against his father's body, we know for sure he couldn't sense Goku's speed at 60.000 so he had to be lower than that.

Regarding Vegeta, he already knew about Gohan's rage boosts. He knew what happened to Raditz, and he saw Gohan having multiple rage boosts in the earth.

3. After zenkai, Gohan wasn't mad anymore, yet Vegeta stated he was stronger than before, so Non Enraged Gohan (post zenkai)> Enraged Gohan (pre zenkai)

Gohan's rage boosts can last much longer, like we saw when he fought Cell. Gohan attacked Freezer, and Freezer powered up to fight against that Gohan. If Gohan's rage had completely banished leaving him at pre-rage levels of power, it wouldn't matter if that Gohan was 30.000 or 300.000, Freezer would've killed him even without wanting to do it.
In that fight, like in the fight against Vegeta or Cell, Gohan's rage lasted until the fight ended.

4. Vegeta was implied to be a good deal above 3rd form Freeza, or he wouldn't be confident at taking 4th form.

Vegeta's confidence came from him being convinced he had become a SSJ. He was implied to be a good deal above Piccolo but like with the first time he transformed, 3rd form Freezer didn't transform because he needed it but simply because he wanted.
With Piccolo being able to react to Freezer's attacks the difference between him and what we saw of 3rd form Freezer couldn't be as big as 1.100.000 to 1.500.000, more like 1.100.000 (Piccolo) to 1.250.000 (restrained 3rd form Freezer) at best.
We know Vegeta could react to initial 4th form Freezer's death beams and that those death beams were much faster than the ones 3rd form Freezer used against Piccolo, so the difference between Piccolo and Vegeta had to be big (one hit kill big), but we also know that 4th form Freezer was able to overpower Vegeta's attack with a simple kick. At 2.000.000 Vegeta seems too high for a 2.400.000 Freezer (or even a 3.150.000 Freezer like I put in my list) to simply overpower Vegeta's best attack with a simple kick.

6. I thought the whole point of your lists was to hax Freeza. Whatever, let's just say he started with double of what he was, but was rapidly falling.

Nah, I just want to put Freezer at the place he occupied in the manga heheheh
We know that the body gaining mass is bad, so even when his power also rapidly fell, we also have to take this other drawback when powerscaling if we want to be 100% accurate.

7. I just think it's more logical to use lower power against Freeza's lower effort.

Yes I agree on that. But at that point of the series you could use lower power using lower levels of KK, using the same level of KK but not with your maximum strength or simply not putting a lot of effort behind your hits (like we would normally do when warming up).
Since it goes against Toriyama's style to just put invisible technique activations I chose not to use them in my power lists, because then everything becomes more difficult to analyse.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

1. No, I don't think so. He simply tore of his jacket but nobody commented on his power increasing nor anything like that.
2. Gohan's power was constinuously rising for the same reasons both Vegeta and Goku's power were doing the same, the zenkays. But Gohan didn't have any zenkay after he fought Ginyu because he wasn't injured in that fight, and even if he didn't go all out against his father's body, we know for sure he couldn't sense Goku's speed at 60.000 so he had to be lower than that.
3.Regarding Vegeta, he already knew about Gohan's rage boosts. He knew what happened to Raditz, and he saw Gohan having multiple rage boosts in the earth.
4. Gohan's rage boosts can last much longer, like we saw when he fought Cell. Gohan attacked Freezer, and Freezer powered up to fight against that Gohan. If Gohan's rage had completely banished leaving him at pre-rage levels of power, it wouldn't matter if that Gohan was 30.000 or 300.000, Freezer would've killed him even without wanting to do it.
In that fight, like in the fight against Vegeta or Cell, Gohan's rage lasted until the fight ended.
5. Vegeta's confidence came from him being convinced he had become a SSJ. He was implied to be a good deal above Piccolo but like with the first time he transformed, 3rd form Freezer didn't transform because he needed it but simply because he wanted.
With Piccolo being able to react to Freezer's attacks the difference between him and what we saw of 3rd form Freezer couldn't be as big as 1.100.000 to 1.500.000, more like 1.100.000 (Piccolo) to 1.250.000 (restrained 3rd form Freezer) at best.
6. We know Vegeta could react to initial 4th form Freezer's death beams and that those death beams were much faster than the ones 3rd form Freezer used against Piccolo, so the difference between Piccolo and Vegeta had to be big (one hit kill big), but we also know that 4th form Freezer was able to overpower Vegeta's attack with a simple kick. At 2.000.000 Vegeta seems too high for a 2.400.000 Freezer (or even a 3.150.000 Freezer like I put in my list) to simply overpower Vegeta's best attack with a simple kick.
7. Nah, I just want to put Freezer at the place he occupied in the manga heheheh
We know that the body gaining mass is bad, so even when his power also rapidly fell, we also have to take this other drawback when powerscaling if we want to be 100% accurate.
8. Yes I agree on that. But at that point of the series you could use lower power using lower levels of KK, using the same level of KK but not with your maximum strength or simply not putting a lot of effort behind your hits (like we would normally do when warming up).
Since it goes against Toriyama's style to just put invisible technique activations I chose not to use them in my power lists, because then everything becomes more difficult to analyse.

1. Wasn't Vegeta asking whether that was his transformation an indirect comment on power increase? It makes more sense to go to the full
power of the previous form before transforming to the next.
2. Both Gohan and Vegeta received one zenkai against Recoome. Vegeta's power had been increasing up to his fight with Freeza's 1st form.
I don't see why that can't be the case with Gohan as well.
3. Vegeta was surprised when he saw Gohan's rage against Freeza, so his previous statement about the brat's power was not about his rage.
4. Gohan against Cell didn't just get one of his momentary rage boosts, he transformed. Yes, i think 2nd form Freeza toyed with Gohan,
which is why he didn't kill him.
5. Piccolo couldn't react at all at Freeza's finger beams and Freeza looked like he was only toying. Freeza 3rd form only showed real effort
when he countered Gohan's blast. But yes, maybe, to tool Piccolo, he used an effort like 1.3m and went to the full 1.5m against Gohan's
blast.
6. Vegeta being able to see 4th Form Freeza means he was close or on par with Freeza's minimal effort, which i have at 2m. As for countering
Vegeta's blast, i think Freeza momentarily used his max 3m effort, since that was the only time his face indicated he was serious against
Vegeta.
7. Maybe i increase his 50% to, say, 7.5m and increase Goku's KHH multiplier. I'll see how i'll do it.
8. Ok, maybe it's like that. Just ignore the 8x KK, if you don't like it.

 

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1. Wasn't Vegeta asking whether that was his transformation an indirect comment on power increase? It makes more sense to go to the full
power of the previous form before transforming to the next.
2. Both Gohan and Vegeta received one zenkai against Recoome. Vegeta's power had been increasing up to his fight with Freeza's 1st form.
I don't see why that can't be the case with Gohan as well.
3. Vegeta was surprised when he saw Gohan's rage against Freeza, so his previous statement about the brat's power was not about his rage.
4. Gohan against Cell didn't just get one of his momentary rage boosts, he transformed. Yes, i think 2nd form Freeza toyed with Gohan,
which is why he didn't kill him.
5. Piccolo couldn't react at all at Freeza's finger beams and Freeza looked like he was only toying. Freeza 3rd form only showed real effort
when he countered Gohan's blast. But yes, maybe, to tool Piccolo, he used an effort like 1.3m and went to the full 1.5m against Gohan's
blast.
6. Vegeta being able to see 4th Form Freeza means he was close or on par with Freeza's minimal effort, which i have at 2m. As for countering
Vegeta's blast, i think Freeza momentarily used his max 3m effort, since that was the only time his face indicated he was serious against
Vegeta.
7. Maybe i increase his 50% to, say, 7.5m and increase Goku's KHH multiplier. I'll see how i'll do it.
8. Ok, maybe it's like that. Just ignore the 8x KK, if you don't like it.

1. Nope. Vegeta thought that Freezer's transformation was just to wear off his jacket in order to move faster. If Freezer's power had increased at that point Vegeta wouldn't have said that.

2. Both Gohan and Vegeta received a zenkay boost, the difference is that we never knew how strong Vegeta was until he fought with all his strength against Freezer. Vegeta's power didn't increase between the zenkay and Freezer's fight, Vegeta became that strong just after eating Goku's senzu bean. It's just that Vegeta still wasn't aware of how powerful he had become and that's why he spoke of Goku in the way he did, but he already had the ~= 300.000 power there.

3. It wasn't about that specific rage boost he was speaking of. Vegeta saw how that kid had gone from 1 (when Raditz appeared) to nearly 30.000 in just a year and a half (and 30.000 was already double the strength Vegeta had gained in all his life) and he also knew that besides that huge power increase, Gohan could still enrage. He didn't know to which extent could Gohan's rage power him up, but he knew Gohan was able of enraging and powering up.
Then, when he saw how strong Gohan had become he, of course was surprised. Vegeta thought of Gohan as someone that could be of some help, not of someone that would clearly surpass him like he did.

4. As you say, the rage boosts of Gohan can last a lot or just a moment. In that case, even if Freezer toyed with Gohan, he did it considering the strength Gohan had displayed against him (that's why he powered up). Freezer can't detect Kis, so he couldn't possibly adapt to a Gohan whose rage boost had already banished. The sole fact that Gohan survived those hits demonstrates that his rage boost was still active at that point.

5. If you read that chapter again you'll see how Piccolo was able to react to 3rd form Freezer's death beams.
http://mangalife.org/read-online/Dragon-Ball-chapter-108-index-2-page-12.html
Reacting of course doesn't mean dodging, but it was a smart way for Toriyama to show the difference between 3rd/2nd form Freezer and true form Freezer.

6. The problem here is that Freezer wasn't even trying while Vegeta was giving all he had. In other words, even if Freezer was already at above 3 million, he could still perfectly fire a death beam weak enough that someone with 1.5-1.6 million could dodge it. In the same way Raditz had 1200 but he hit Goku containing his hitting strength to not kill him too fast, Freezer did the same as well. On the other hand, Vegeta fired his best attack against Freezer and he was able to deflect it with a single kick, so the difference between Vegeta and that restrained Freezer has to be big.

7. Perfect!