PLG Power Level List

[Power Level Guy]

Super Saiyan 50x
Grade 2 100x
Super Saiyan 2 200x
Grade 3 300x
Super Saiyan 3 1,000x


Dodonpa/Death Beam 1.1x
Wolf Fang Fist 1.16
Wolf Fang Fist (2.0) 1.2x
Kamehameha 1.33
Galick Gun 1.5x
Final Crash 1.5x
Final Burst Cannon 1.5x
Super Kamehameha 1.5x
Big Bang Attack 1.5x
Light Grenade 1.5x
Final Flash 2.5x
Final Explosion 5x
Great Ape Fist 10x
Super Spirit Bomb 10x



This is a list that focuses on consistency. Guidebook writers and the original author are power scaling noobs. Obviously I try to maintain as much of the source material as possible, but the author doesn't know how to do basic math, is forgetful, and showcases erroneous numerical values that go against his own work at times. These errors will not be included.



Dragon Ball scale is 1 = .0001



Pilaf Arc

Puar 1
Oolong 2
Bulma 3
Pterodactyl 15
Bear Bandit 25
Krillin 30
Yamcha 45
Goku 50
Wolf Fang Fist 52.5
Ox King 100
Roshi 150
Great Ape Goku 500



21st World Tournament

Orin Temple Bullies 35
Yamcha 60
Yamcha's Wolf Fang Fist 70
Bacterian 70
Krillin (Initial) 75
Jackie Chun (Initial) 80
Giran 90
Krillin (Full Power) 100
Jackie Chun (Powered Up) 100
Goku (W/o Tail) 110
Namu 140
Jackie Chun (Full Power) 150
Goku (W/Tail) 150
Goku/Chun's Kamehameha 200
Great Ape Goku 1,500


Red Ribbon Army

Colonel Silver 75
Ninja Murasaki 100
Pirate Robot 120
Bora 125
General Blue 135
Sergeant Metallic 150
Goku (Muscle Tower) 160
Staff Officer Black 175
Goku (Zenkai) 180
Android #8 225
Goku's Kamehameha 240
Tao Pai Pai (Initial) 270
Tao Pai Pai (Full Power) 330
Goku (Post Korin Trained) 375



Baba's Tournament

Dracula Man 40
Invisible Man 50
Yamcha 60
Yamcha's Wolf Fang Fist 70
Krillin 100
Mummy 160
Goku (Initial) 240
Devil Man 250
Goku (Powered Up) 275
Gohan 360
Goku (Full Power) 375


22nd World Tournament

Panputto 200
King Chappa 400
Chaozu 450
Yamcha 450
Tien (Initial) 450
Krillin 475
Goku (Initial) 500
Yamcha's Wolf Fang Fist (2.0) 550
Tien (Power Up 1) 575
Yamcha's Kamehameha 600
Goku (Powered Up) 675
Jackie Chun (Initial) 675
Tien (Power Up 2) 675
Tsuru 750
Jackie Chun (Powered Up) 800
Tien (Power Up 3) 800
Jackie Chun (Full Power, Unseen) 1,000
Tien (Power Up 4) 1,100
Goku (Match Level) 1,100
Tien (Full Power) 1,500
Goku (Battle Level) 1,500
Tien's Kikoho 2,250


King Piccolo Saga

Krillin 475
Goku (Fatigued) 1,000
Tambourine 1,200
Yajirobe 1,250
Goku (Holding Back) 1,350
King Piccolo 1,700
Goku (Zenkai) 1,800
Goku's Kamehameha 2,400
Goku (Zenkai) 2,750
King Piccolo (Less than Half Power) 5,000
King Piccolo (Full Power, Unseen) 12,500


King Piccolo Saga (Flashback)

Student Tsuru 150
Student Roshi 150
Master Mutaito 175
King Piccolo (Young) 25,000


King Piccolo Saga Part 2

Tien 1,500
Drum 2,500
Shenron 15,000
King Piccolo (Young, Initial) 2,500
Goku (Sacred Water, Initial) 2,750
King Piccolo (Full Power) 3,500
Goku (Full Power) 3,750


Meeting God

Goku 4,500
Great Ape Fist 45,000
Popo 50,000
Kami 75,000


23rd World Tournament

Tao Pai Pai (Cyborg) 2,250
Yamcha 2,600
Krillin 2,750
Piccolo Jr. (Initial) 3,000
Piccolo Jr. (Powered Up) 3,750
Shen 3,750
Goku/Tien Speed 3,750
Goku/Tien Power 4,500
Tien (Speed Up/Power) 4,500
Goku (W/o Weights, Initial) 6,000
Shen (Full Power) ???
Kami 75,000
Goku/Piccolo Damaged 100,000
Piccolo Jr. (Full Power) 300,000
Goku (Full Power) 300,000
Goku's Super Kamehameha 450,000
Explosive Wave 500,000


Saiyan Saga

Farmer .0005
Yamcha 7
Krillen 7.5
Tien 10
Popo 50
Kami 75
Goku (W/Weights) 400
Piccolo (W/Weights) 400
Piccolo's Blast 400
Piccolo (W/o Weights) 600
Goku (W/o Weights) 600
Raditz (Initial) 800
Goku's Kamehameha 900
Raditz (Powered Up) 1,000
Raditz (Full Power) 1,250
Gohan (Enraged) 1,300
Special Beam Cannon 1,350


Saiyan Saga Part 2

Saibamen 1,200
Gohan 1,250
Yamcha 1,350
Krillen 1,400
Tien 1,600
Piccolo 2,000
Tien's Kikoho 2,400
Enraged Gohan 2,500
Gohan's Masenko 2,800
Nappa (Initial) 3,000
Goku (Initial) 5,000
Nappa (Full Power) 8,000
Goku (Full Power) 8,000
Goku Kaioken x2 16,000
Vegeta (Full Power) 18,000
Goku Kaioken x3 24,000
Goku KKx3 Kamehameha 27,000
Vegeta's Galick Gun 27,000
Goku KKx4 Kamehameha 32,000
Great Ape Vegeta (Full Capability, Unseen) 180,000


Namek Saga

Freeza's Scouts 750
Namekians (Suppressed) 1,000
Krillen (W/Weights) 1,400
Krillen (W/o Weights) 1,600
Gohan 1,750
Freeza's Soldiers 2,000
Namekians (Full Power) 3,000
Enraged Gohan 3,500
Goku (Zenkai) 12,000
Vegeta (Suppressed) 16,000
Cui 18,000
Dodoria 20,000
Zarbon 21,000
Vegeta (Full Power) 24,000
Zarbon (Monster) 28,000
Vegeta (Zenkai) 30,000


Ginyu Force Saga Part 1

Krillen (Guru Power Up) 13,000
Gohan (Guru Power Up) 14,000
Vegeta 30,000
Reecome 40,000
Burter 40,000
Jeice 40,000
Nail 42,000
Final Crash 45,000
Eraser Gun 50,000
Crusher Ball 50,000
Vegeta (Zenkai) 50,000
Goku (Ginyu Estimate) 60,000
Goku (Actual Level) 65,000
Captain Ginyu (Initial) 65,000
Goku (Powered Up) 75,000
Captain Ginyu (Powered Up) 75,000
Goku (Ginyu Estimates FP) 85,000
Goku (Full Power) 90,000
Captain Ginyu (Full Power, Unseen) 120,000
Goku Kaio-Ken x2 180,000


Ginyu Force Saga Part 2

Captain Ginyu (In Goku) 23,000
Krillen (Guru Power Up Extended) 23,000
Gohan (Guru Power Up Extended) 26,000
Jeice 40,000
Nail 42,000
Vegeta (Zenkai Extended) 60,000
Freeza 450,000

Freeza Saga Part 1

Krillen 250,000
Piccolo 275,000
Gohan 300,000
Piccolo 350,000
Freeza (Initial) 450,000
Vegeta 475,000
Freeza 530,000
Kamiccolo (W/Weights) 550,000
Kamiccolo (W/o Weights) 700,000
Expected Transformed Freeza 700,000


Freeza Saga Part 2

Gohan 300,000
Gohan (Enraged) 900,000
Gohan (Zenkai) 1,000,000
Freeza (2nd Form Initial) 1,060,000
Freeza (2nd Form Powered Up) 1,350,000
Piccolo (W/Weights) 1,375,000
Freeza (2nd Form Full Power) 1,600,000
Piccolo (W/o Weights) 1,750,000
Gohan (Enraged) 2,000,000
Gohan Masenko 2,250,000
Freeza (3rd Form) 2,500,000
Vegeta (Zenkai) 4,500,000
Freeza (True Form, Initial) 5,000,000
Freeza (Death Beam) 5,500,000
Vegeta (Final Burst Cannon) 6,000,000
Goku (Initial) 6,250,000
Freeza (Powered Up) 6,500,000
Goku (Full Power) 7,500,000
Freeza (Max Initial Power) 8,500,000
Goku Kaio-Ken x10 75,000,000
Goku Kaio-Ken x20 150,000,000
Kkx20 Kamehameha 150,000,000
Freeza (50%) 175,000,000
Spirit Bomb 225,000,000
Freeza (70%) 250,000,000
Freeza (100%, Lost Power) 300,000,000
Freeza (100%) 350,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku 375,000,000
Kamehameha 500,000,000
Nova Strike 500,000,000


Cooler's Revenge


Cooler 14,000,000
Goku 15,000,000
KKx10 150,000,000
FP Cooler 250,000,000
Kkx20 300,000,000
KKx20 Kamehameha 300,000,000
FF Cooler 500,000,000
Supernova 700,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku 750,000,000



Trunks Saga

Yamcha 250,000
Tien 375,000
Krillen 500,000
Gohan 1,000,000
Piccolo 8,750,000
Vegeta 10,000,000
Trunks 12,000,000
Goku 15,000,000
King Cold 250,000,000
Mecha Freeza (Suppressed) 250,000,000
Mecha Freeza (Full Power, Unseen) 400,000,000
SSJ Trunks (Holding Back vs Goku) 500,000,000
Super Saiyan Trunks 600,000,000
SSJ Goku (Trunks' Expectations) 700,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku 750,000,000


Future Saga Part 1
Yamcha 400,000
Tien 600,000
Krillen 800,000
Gohan 1,000,000
Vegeta 8,000,000
Piccolo 375,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegeta 400,000,000
Android 18 450,000,000
Android 17 500,000,000


Future Saga Part 2

Gohan 9,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan 450,000,000
Android 18 450,000,000
Android 17 500,000,000


Future Saga Part 3

Gohan 11,000,000
Trunks 12,000,000
Android 18 (Suppressed) 450,000,000
Android 17 (Suppressed) 500,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan 550,000,000
Super Saiyan Trunks 600,000,000
Android 18 1,600,000,000
Android 17 1,750,000,000


Return of Cooler

Vegeta 30,000,000
Goku
30,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegeta 1,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku 1,500,000,000
Metal Cooler 1,500,000,000


Androids Saga

Yamcha 2,500,000
Tien 3,750,000
Krillen 5,000,000
Gohan 15,000,000
Piccolo (Suppressed) 20,000,000
Piccolo (Suppressed W/o Weights) 25,000,000
Trunks 28,000,000
Goku 30,000,000
Vegeta 32,000,000
Android 19 700,000,000
Android 20 750,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku (Sicker) 800,000,000
Android 20 (Post Absorption) 925,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku (Sick) 1,000,000,000
Piccolo (W/Weights) 1,000,000,000
Android 20 (Post Absorption) 1,050,000,000
Piccolo (W/o Weights) 1,250,000,000
Super Saiyan Trunks 1,400,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku 1,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegeta 1,600,000,000
Android 18 1,600,000,000
Android 18 (FP) 2,250,000,000
Android 17 2,500,000,000


Cell Saga

Super Saiyan Vegeta 1,600,000,000
Imperfect Cell 1,800,000,000
Piccolo (W/Weights) 2,200,000,000
Android 18 2,250,000,000
Imperfect Cell's Kamehameha 2,400,000,000
Android 17 2,500,000,000
Piccolo (W/o Weights) 2,500,000,000
Piccolo's Light Grenade 3,750,000,000
Android 16 6,000,000,000
Imperfect Cell (Post Absorption) 6,250,000,000
Semi Perfect Cell 12,500,000,000


Room of Spirit and Time

Gohan 40,000,000
Goku 50,000,000
Trunks 240,000,000
Vegeta 250,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan 2,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku 2,500,000,000
SSJ Grade 2 Goku 5,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Trunks 12,000,000,000
Semi-Perfect Cell 12,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegeta 12,500,000,000
SSJ Grade 3 Goku 15,000,000,000
Semi Perfect Cell (Full Power) 15,000,000,000
Perfect Cell (Fake Ki) 22,500,000,000
SSJ Grade 2 Trunks 24,000,000,000
SSJ Grade 2 Vegeta 25,000,000,000
Perfect Cell (Actual) 50,000,000,000
Final Flash 62,500,000,000
SSJ Grade 3 Trunks (Full Power) 72,000,000,000
Power Weighted Cell 75,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku (50%) 125,000,000,000

Broly


Trunks 240,000,000
Vegeta 250,000,000
Gohan 450,000,000
Goku 550,000,000
Piccolo 3,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Trunks 12,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegeta12,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan 22,500,000,000
Grade 2 Trunks 24,000,000,000
Grade 2 Vegeta 25,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku 27,500,000,000
Restricted Super Saiyan Broly (Initial) 30,000,000,000



The Cell Games

Yamcha 2,500,000
Tien 3,750,000
Krillen 5,000,000
Trunks 3,000,000,000
Vegeta 3,000,000,000
Piccolo W/ Weights 3,500,000,000
Piccolo W/o Weights 3,750,000,000
Goku 5,000,000,000
Android 16 6,000,000,000
Gohan 7,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Trunks 150,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegeta 150,000,000,000
Cell Juniors 150,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku 250,000,000,000
Perfect Cell (Powered Up) 275,000,000,000
Perfect Cell 350,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan 375,000,000,000
Perfect Cell (Full Power) 1,000,000,000,000
Perfect Cell (Power Weighted) 1,500,000,000,000
Super Perfect Cell 1,700,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Gohan 1,800,000,000,000


Free the Future Part 1

Android 18 1,600,000,000
Android 17 1,750,000,000
Trunks 3,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Trunks 150,000,000,000


Free the Future Part 2

Imperfect Cell 5,000,000,000
Trunks 5,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Trunks 250,000,000,000


25th World Tournament

Mr. Satan .000666
Spopovich .000700
Yamu .000750
Videl .000800
Krillen 5,000,000
Kibito 1,000,000,000
Supreme Kai 1,500,000,000
Android 18 2,250,000,000
Goten 2,400,000,000
Trunks 2,500,000,000
Piccolo W/ Weights 3,750,000,000
Piccolo W/o Weights 4,000,000,000
Gohan 6,000,000,000
Vegeta 8,000,000,000
Goku 10,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Goten 120,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Trunks 125,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan 300,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Gohan 1,200,000,000,000




Badibi Saga

Kaioshin 1,500,000,000
Expected Saiyans 2,000,000,000
Pui Pui 3,000,000,000
Vegeta (vs Pui Pui) 4,500,000,000
Expected Saiyans (Post Pui Pui) 4,500,000,000
Gohan 6,000,000,000
Vegeta 8,000,000,000
Yakon 9,000,000,000
Goku 10,000,000,000
Majin Vegeta 10,000,000,000
Dabura 300,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan 300,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegeta 400,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku 500,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Majin Vegeta 500,000,000,000
Fat Buu (Initial) 1,500,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta 1,600,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Goku 2,000,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Majin Vegeta 2,000,000,000,000
Fat Buu (Powered Up) 2,500,000,000,000
Fat Buu (Full Power) 7,500,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Holding Back) 8,000,000,000,000
Final Explosion 10,000,000,000,000


Majin Buu Saga

Goten 2,250,000,000
Trunks 2,400,000,000
Gohan
6,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Goten 112,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Trunks 120,000,000,000
Good Buu
3,000,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Gohan
4,000,000,000,000
Evil Buu
4,500,000,000,000
Fat Buu 7,500,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Gotenks 10,000,000,000,000
Super Buu 17,500,000,000,000


Fusion Reborn

Vegeta 10,000,000,000
Goku 12,000,000,000
Ssj Vegeta 500,000,000,000
Ssj Goku 600,000,000,000
Ssj2 Vegeta 2,000,000,000,000
Ssj2 Goku 2,400,000,000,000
Fat Janemba 8,000,000,000,000
Ssj3 Goku 12,000,000,000,000
Super Janemba
50,000,000,000,000
Ssj Gogeta
100,000,000,000,000


Fusion Saga

Gotenks
Super Saiyan Gotenks 15,000,000,000,000
Super Buu 17,500,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks
60,000,000,000,000
Super Buu
300,000,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks
300,000,000,000,000
Buff Buu
350,000,000,000,000
Ultimate Gohan
450,000,000,000,000
Buutenks
600,000,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegetto
1,500,000,000,000,000


Kid Buu Saga

Vegeta
10,000,000,000
Goku 10,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegeta 500,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku 500,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta 2,000,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Goku 2,000,000,000,000
Mr. Buu 7,500,000,000,000
Kid Buu 10,000,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 Goku 10,000,000,000,000

 

[GSM123]

I think Vegeta vs Jeice is probably better above 100k, just to be sure. There’s no chance that Ginyu is gonna struggle with his body.

 

[Power Level Guy]

I think Vegeta vs Jeice is probably better above 100k, just to be sure. There’s no chance that Ginyu is gonna struggle with his body.

Probably. I gotta look into it more.

 

[SIAD]

Will you continue with EoZ and DBGT?

 

[SSJ2]

There's something about Tao Pai Pai being <10x stronger than the Orin Temple bullies which doesn't feel right.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Will you continue with EoZ and DBGT?

No

There's something about Tao Pai Pai being <10x stronger than the Orin Temple bullies which doesn't feel right.

I used to think that too but that Great Ape Goku vs Gohan thing is my limit

 

[SIAD]

No



I used to think that too but that Great Ape Goku vs Gohan thing is my limit

And what level of power do you give Vegetto Base/SSJ?

 

[FeatsofPower]

And what level of power do you give Vegetto Base/SSJ?

His range is quite large. Fusion is a tricky one to deal with, there's the whole issue of Gokan vs Vegetto, and then BoG Vegetto > Gokan. Also, if FF Freeza ~ SSJ God Goku BoG, then, it factors in for me some things.

As it stands, I'd probably prefer

Vegetto 400
Buuhan 375
Gokan 350
Buutenks 300

But, I still need time to digest some material from Super. So for accuracy's sake, I'm leaving it blank for the time being.

I'm also still considering reducing the Kamehameha amp in early Dragonball as well.

So quite a few issues to think about still.

Something just doesn't feel right about early Dragonball people having a 1.33x amp you know?

 

[Power Level Guy]

And what level of power do you give Vegetto Base/SSJ?

Screw it, I'll include it. Vegetto is intended to be the strongest possible fusion, so I'm going to give Vegetto a slight edge over Gokan and Buuhan.

What do you think of the new placement?

 

[SIAD]

Screw it, I'll include it. Vegetto is intended to be the strongest possible fusion, so I'm going to give Vegetto a slight edge over Gokan and Buuhan.

What do you think of the new placement?

I like it, maybe I would raise Gokhan a little. It had been implied that Gokhan Base would have likely defeated Gotenks Boo easily.

Even if you had Gokhan Base with 99% power compared to Vegetto Base, Vegetto would still be the stronger and would have a comfortable advantage over Gotenks Boo.

 

[Power Level Guy]

I like it, maybe I would raise Gokhan a little. It had been implied that Gokhan Base would have likely defeated Gotenks Boo easily.

He'd probably be plenty. Which he is by my count.

Gokan can defeat Buutenks easier than Vegeta defeated Zarbon. He's got plenty of power for my tastes.

Hmm, I'll add some movie levels too.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Ok, I updated the list to include Goku's Great Ape Fist being a 10x amp for his punch. This dramatically weakened all of early Dragonball but appears to be quite accurate.

 

[GSM123]

SSJ2’s arguments got me thinking… Are we sure 2-3x is enough for Post-Roshi Goku and Kuririn?

On one hand, they look absurdly strong. But on the other hand, they’re not beyond the human wall yet.

 

[SSJ2]

What even is the human wall? Goku could throw a car when he was at his weakest and was clearly beyond every normal human by a wide margin.

 

[GSM123]

What even is the human wall? Goku could throw a car when he was at his weakest and was clearly beyond every normal human by a wide margin.

Roshi says Goku and Kuririn are still human level before his training, and says Pamputto is human level too.

I think Goku only got past this wall after training with Karin. Up to the 21st Budokai they were still on levels regular martial artists could achieve, but from Tao and beyond they’re superhuman.

My point is, can 21TB Goku and Kuririn really be considered “human level” if they’re like 100x above humans? 20-30x sounds more realistic.

 

[SSJ2]

Bro Goku could throw a car. You can't seriously be arguing that the likes of the Orin Temple bullies could throw a car.

 

[Power Level Guy]

My point is, can 21TB Goku and Kuririn really be considered “human level” if they’re like 100x above humans? 20-30x sounds more realistic.

The Rabbit Gang is able to give Goku a beating.

Krillen can't survive bullets, Goku can.

Goku and Krillen are significantly stronger than Roshi, yet Roshi is more powerful.

 

[SIAD]

I have a question regarding Piccolo's (Heavy Clothing) power throughout the series, it could be said that Piccolo (Weighted) can use his 80% of his power compared to his maximum.

As Piccolo gets stronger, will he increase his weight in Heavy Clothing, so that his power in Heavy Clothing is still around 80% of his maximum?

I see that you have Kamiccolo (Weighted) with 88% of the power compared to his maximum power, in order to compete against the Androids.

This phenomenon of Kamiccolo (Weighted) having more than 80% of his maximum, could it be because Piccolo, when fusing with Kamisama, had a very sudden increase and the weight he had before fusing was little left?

It's an interesting theory, for Kamiccolo (Weighted) to be a rival to the Androids, instead of a distant rival.

 

[Dagon]

Future Saga Part 1
Yamcha 500,000
Tien 700,000
Krillen 750,000
Gohan 1,000,000
Piccolo 14,000,000
Vegeta 15,000,000
Android 18 450,000,000
Android 17 500,000,000

Doing that theory that Vegeta never got SSJ in the other timeline?

 

[Power Level Guy]

I have a question regarding Piccolo's (Heavy Clothing) power throughout the series, it could be said that Piccolo (Weighted) can use his 80% of his power compared to his maximum.

As Piccolo gets stronger, will he increase his weight in Heavy Clothing, so that his power in Heavy Clothing is still around 80% of his maximum?

I see that you have Kamiccolo (Weighted) with 88% of the power compared to his maximum power, in order to compete against the Androids.

This phenomenon of Kamiccolo (Weighted) having more than 80% of his maximum, could it be because Piccolo, when fusing with Kamisama, had a very sudden increase and the weight he had before fusing was little left?

It's an interesting theory, for Kamiccolo (Weighted) to be a rival to the Androids, instead of a distant rival.

Yeah, Piccolo's weighted boost is generally always around 1.25x or so, he must be adjusting his weights according I'd assume. And for the Kamiccolo boost, perhaps he's reached a level of power where the weights are no longer as effective.

Doing that theory that Vegeta never got SSJ in the other timeline?

Yeah, after much research, I've concluded he never attained Super Saiyan in the Future Timeline. If you look in the Super manga, he's also depicted in Base as well.

There's a lot of funky things that come up if Vegeta got Super Saiyan in that timeline, I think we are best off assuming he didn't as the manga suggests.