Nappa Arc Power Levels

[Power Level Guy]

Ok here's my attempt at this. This thing is way more complex than I expected...


Nappa 3,200
Masenko 2,800
Kikoho 2,600
Enraged Gohan 2,500
Suicide Blast 2,250
Scattering Bullet 2,000
Piccolo 1,800
Tien 1,600
Krillen 1,400
Yamcha 1,350
Gohan 1,250-1,500?
Saibamen 1,200


Damn. This is tough!

So I have some major problems here. First off, let's start with Krillen. Krillen's Scattering Blast is supposed to be really powerful.

Kikoho > Suicide Blast > Piccolo

Piccolo definitely respects Scattering Blast, but it doesn't have to surpass him by a lot if at all I think.

The fact the Saiyans take no damage should be looked at. Piccolo is definitely concerned. That would mean Scattering Blast would actually hurt Piccolo or effect him at least a little bit.

Suicide Blast has to be above Piccolo by a good margin since he thinks it can kill Nappa. Or that may be anime filler. I have to look more.

Kikoho not hurting Nappa makes Piccolo think Nappa is immortal. This has to be a big gap here.

Sheesh, this is a complex saga, far, far worse than I ever expected.

If you start accounting for the ki blasts, you run into real trouble.

 

[SSJ2]

Piccolo definitely respects Scattering Blast, but it doesn't have to surpass him by a lot if at all I think.

I don't even think it needs to be 2,000 honestly. Piccolo respected it but he knew that it wasn't going to damage the Saiyans. And he was still talking like the top dog directly after that moment.

Suicide Blast has to be above Piccolo by a good margin since he thinks it can kill Nappa. Or that may be anime filler. I have to look more.

He did think it killed Nappa, but maybe you can't sense the ki from a suicide blast. Maybe he just assumed from the explosion that Nappa would have died.

 

[Power Level Guy]

I don't even think it needs to be 2,000 honestly. Piccolo respected it but he knew that it wasn't going to damage the Saiyans. And he was still talking like the top dog directly after that moment.

Maybe we bring it back down to somewhere in the 1,800s...

He did think it killed Nappa, but maybe you can't sense the ki from a suicide blast. Maybe he just assumed from the explosion that Nappa would have died.

Perhaps we get away with Suicide Blast being 2,000. Yeah, maybe it's so fast, it's not a real means of measuring it.

 

[Hector]

Ok here's my attempt at this. This thing is way more complex than I expected...


Nappa 3,200
Masenko 2,800
Kikoho 2,600
Enraged Gohan 2,500
Suicide Blast 2,250
Scattering Bullet 2,000
Piccolo 1,800
Tien 1,600
Krillen 1,400
Yamcha 1,350
Gohan 1,250-1,500?
Saibamen 1,200


Damn. This is tough!

So I have some major problems here. First off, let's start with Krillen. Krillen's Scattering Blast is supposed to be really powerful.

Kikoho > Suicide Blast > Piccolo

Piccolo definitely respects Scattering Blast, but it doesn't have to surpass him by a lot if at all I think.

The fact the Saiyans take no damage should be looked at. Piccolo is definitely concerned. That would mean Scattering Blast would actually hurt Piccolo or effect him at least a little bit.

Suicide Blast has to be above Piccolo by a good margin since he thinks it can kill Nappa. Or that may be anime filler. I have to look more.

Kikoho not hurting Nappa makes Piccolo think Nappa is immortal. This has to be a big gap here.

Sheesh, this is a complex saga, far, far worse than I ever expected.

If you start accounting for the ki blasts, you run into real trouble.

Doesn't the initial scattering bullet split into weaker ones?

 

[Power Level Guy]

Doesn't the initial scattering bullet split into weaker ones?

I would suspect so. I think it’s really strong and slow, and then the power is split up later.

 

[SSJ2]

How strong was it initially if we assume all of the bullets were equal power?

 

[GSM123]

The difference probably isn’t that big. I doubt one combined blast would do any better.

You should either rise Piccolo or lower Tien. Check Tien’s reaction when Piccolo kills the Saibamen, he wants nothing to do with him.

 

[Power Level Guy]

You should either rise Piccolo or lower Tien. Check Tien’s reaction when Piccolo kills the Saibamen, he wants nothing to do with him.

Yeah, I've gone back to my old set.

Tien 1,600
Piccolo 2,000

It's for the best.

 

[DBZAOTA482]

I'd say Piccolo's full power is 2,200. Makes sense since he literally taught Gohan everything he know.

 

[ahill1]

Nappa 4,000 (vs Z warriors)
-- full power : 7,500
Masenko 2,800
Kikoho 2,400 / 3,200 (dunno which...)
Enraged Gohan 2,500
Suicide Blast — dunno
Scattering Bullet — dunno
Piccolo 2,250
Tien 1,600
Krillen 1,500
Yamcha 1,350
Gohan 1,500
Saibamen 1,200

 

[Power Level Guy]

Nappa 4,000 (vs Z warriors)
-- full power : 7,500
Masenko 2,800
Kikoho 2,400 / 3,200 (dunno which...)
Enraged Gohan 2,500
Suicide Blast — dunno
Scattering Bullet — dunno
Piccolo 2,250
Tien 1,600
Krillen 1,500
Yamcha 1,350
Gohan 1,500
Saibamen 1,200

What’s Chaozu’s Self Destruct at?

 

[GSM123]

Ahill1 got some proper spacing between Piccolo and the humans. Tien was shitting himself seeing Piccolo kill a Saibaman. Self destruct is at least 2k but it doesn't really matter.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Self destruct is at least 2k but it doesn't really matter.

It definitely does matter @GSM123

Self Destruct > Expected Nappa >> Piccolo ~ Scatter Shot

Nappa tanks a power around Piccolo and then Piccolo expects Self Destruct to finish off that version of Nappa. Self Destruct has to reasonably kill Piccolo for this to make any sense at all.

Self Destruct is at bare minimum 1.33x Piccolo, if not 1.5x. For starters.

 

[Power Level Guy]

I don't even think it needs to be 2,000 honestly. Piccolo respected it but he knew that it wasn't going to damage the Saiyans. And he was still talking like the top dog directly after that moment.

He said it had tremendous power, it's gotta be rivaling him at bare minimum.

He did think it killed Nappa, but maybe you can't sense the ki from a suicide blast. Maybe he just assumed from the explosion that Nappa would have died.

This is a cope. It's gotta be strong enough to reasonable be able to kill Nappa.

I doubt the Saibaman's Self Destruct is anywhere close to killing Nappa.

 

[SSJ2]

He said it had tremendous power, it's gotta be rivaling him at bare minimum.

Yeah 1,900 would be.

This is a cope. It's gotta be strong enough to reasonable be able to kill Nappa.

I doubt the Saibaman's Self Destruct is anywhere close to killing Nappa.

How does that work? Saibman >> Chaozu, why would Chaozau have a far stronger explosion?

 

[Power Level Guy]

How does that work? Saibman >> Chaozu, why would Chaozau have a far stronger explosion?

Saibaman has a basic Self Destruct, he has poor ki amp. His self destruct is probably only 1.5x, which is a solid ki amp blast, but poor for a suicidal attack.

Chaozu is a much more refined ki master, he knows how to amp his life energy in a much better fashion.

Saibaman's Self Destruct is 1.5x

Chaozu's Self Destruct is 3x.

 

[GSM123]

It definitely does matter @GSM123

Self Destruct > Expected Nappa >> Piccolo ~ Scatter Shot

Nappa tanks a power around Piccolo and then Piccolo expects Self Destruct to finish off that version of Nappa. Self Destruct has to reasonably kill Piccolo for this to make any sense at all.

Self Destruct is at bare minimum 1.33x Piccolo, if not 1.5x. For starters.

More like

Expected self destruct > Nappa > Self destruct

Nappa didn’t even tank Piccolo himself. He blasts Nappa in the back and burns him.

 

[ahill1]

What’s Chaozu’s Self Destruct at?

Idk, it's hard to give a # to every attack. Some are ok, other are too much...

It definitely does matter @GSM123

Self Destruct > Expected Nappa >> Piccolo ~ Scatter Shot

Nappa tanks a power around Piccolo and then Piccolo expects Self Destruct to finish off that version of Nappa. Self Destruct has to reasonably kill Piccolo for this to make any sense at all.

Self Destruct is at bare minimum 1.33x Piccolo, if not 1.5x. For starters.

But then you'd need to have Piccolo way below. If you think 2,800 Masenko Gohan was the cap there, then...

Masenko >> Kikoho >> suicide blast >> expected Nappa >> Piccolo

Piccolo 1,800
Expected Nappa 2,100
Self destruction Chaozu 2,400
New expected Nappa 2,700
Ten's Kikoho 3,100

See... You wouldn't be able to place the last Kikoho as < Masenko even having Piccolo as 1,800 ....

 

[Power Level Guy]

Idk, it's hard to give a # to every attack. Some are ok, other are too much...

What makes this one hard?

But then you'd need to have Piccolo way below. If you think 2,800 Masenko Gohan was the cap there, then...

Exactly.

See... You wouldn't be able to place the last Kikoho as < Masenko even having Piccolo as 1,800 ....

Exactly...

 

[ahill1]

What makes this one hard?

Exactly.


Exactly...

So, where do you have Piccolo and the suicide attack?