Imperfect Cell Post Expected Growth in Power

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Cell knew he reached a level which 17 & 18 can't defeat:

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Cell does an apparent power-up (not 100% confirming this case, he could simply be flaring his aura):

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However, considering he tempted Piccolo to stop him if he wants, who's shaking in fear upon sensing him (it apparently wasn't clear at all ever since he arrived).

Finally, Imperfect Cell after breaking Piccolo's neck, he said he reached a level which was too strong (e.g greater than estimated):
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So, this implies: Imperfect Cell (breaking Piccolo neck) > Imperfect Cell (tanking Piccolo's LG)?

How would you put in numbers:

Imperfect Cell (Pre)
Imperfect Cell (Post/Expected Increase)
Imperfect Cell (Post/Actual Increase)

Would Imperfect Cell (Post/Expected Increase) be equal of Future Imperfect Cell. What do you think?
 
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It's not a second power up. Piccolo was much weaker after all of the energy he expended from Cell's first couple attacks and then the Light Grenade as well. He was then weak enough where Cell could break his neck with a punch.

Cell's statement about his own power is a general statement about how powerful he's gotten, it isn't because he used a higher level of power.
 
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The only debate here is why is Piccolo shocked that his Light Grenade caused no damage.

I'd say Cell is just so strong, even though Piccolo knows he's way stronger, he still happens to underestimate him...

This definitely doesn't feel like a power-up here to me...
 
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Power Level Guy said:
The only debate here is why is Piccolo shocked that his Light Grenade caused no damage.

I'd say Cell is just so strong, even though Piccolo knows he's way stronger, he still happens to underestimate him...

This definitely doesn't feel like a power-up here to me...
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16 does make it sound like it did some damage, albeit not much at all.

Chapter: 370 (DBZ 176), P10.1-2
Context: after Cell is hit by Piccolo’s powerful ki blast
No.18: “He did it!”
No.16: “No, he didn’t. [Cell] has hardly taken any damage.”

Still, it wasn’t a complete tank.
 
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SSJ2 said:
16 does make it sound like it did some damage, albeit not much at all.

Chapter: 370 (DBZ 176), P10.1-2
Context: after Cell is hit by Piccolo’s powerful ki blast
No.18: “He did it!”
No.16: “No, he didn’t. [Cell] has hardly taken any damage.”

Still, it wasn’t a complete tank.
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Yeah, that’s why I have it above the typical 50% gap I use for tanks.

But this is a disputable thing. The anime has 16 say that Cell took no damage. I’d like to see this double checked by @Pakl
 
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Power Level Guy said:
He got too strong because he is way stronger than necessary. 1.5x the Androids would have been plenty, but he's more like 2x then, much stronger than needed.
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Okay, so in your book how strong was Imperfect Cell Pre compared to the Androids?

So, he expected to be 1.5x stronger than Androids and he turned out to be more than twice their power?
 
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Power Level Guy said:
Yeah, that’s why I have it above the typical 50% gap I use for tanks.

But this is a disputable thing. The anime has 16 say that Cell took no damage. I’d like to see this double checked by @Pakl
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やってはいないほとんどダメージもうけていない

Yatte wa inai hotondo damēji mōkete inai

"He hasn't done it. Nearly no damage was done to him."

The word "ほとんど" "Hotondo" means "almost" or "mostly", "nearly".

Suspiciously, 16 doesn't use this word in the anime, probably because the Anime likes to hax everything.

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"Instead of the word "almost", "nearly", 16 uses the term: それどころか "Soredokoroka" "on the contrary" further emphasizing Cell's superiority.
 
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Wow, thanks for confirming this for me! I’ve been wondering this for years.

Damn, let me see which other ones I need to confirm. What lines are always suspect to you?

How is the line about Base Gokhan structured?

so for me this confirms that Cell cant be 2x stronger than the blast.
 
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Power Level Guy said:
Wow, thanks for confirming this for me! I’ve been wondering this for years.

Damn, let me see which other ones I need to confirm. What lines are always suspect to you?

How is the line about Base Gokhan structured?

so for me this confirms that Cell cant be 2x stronger than the blast.
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Edited the post above. You mean the Elder Kaioshin saying Base Gokuhan would be superior to Gotenks-Boo?

超サイヤ人になるなら合体したあとでなったほうがええまそんなことせんでもじゅ~~~~~~~ぶんじゃろ ポタラのパワーはそれほどすごい!

Chō saiyahito ni narunara gattai shita ato de natta hō ga e e ma son'na koto sen demoji ~yu ~~~~~~~ bunjaro potara no pawā wa sore hodo sugoi!

"If you want to become a Super Saiyan, it's better to do it after fusion. Well, you don't have to do that, right? The power of the Potara is so awesome!"

In the anime though, the only difference is the last line as marked above and below.

超サイヤ人になるなら合体したあとでなったほうがええまそんなことせんでもじゅ~~~~~~~ぶんじゃろ ポタラの力だけで十分だろう.

Chō saiyahito ni narunara gattai shita ato de natta hō ga e e ma son'na koto sen demoji ~yu ~~~~~~~ bunjaro Potara no chikara dakede jūbundarou

"If you want to become a Super Saiyan, it's better to do it after fusion. Well, you don't have to do that, right? the power from just the Potara should just be enough."

I'm thinking about doing a huge manga/anime comparison and then adding the movies into it. But it's tough.
 
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