Proof Daizenshuu 7 was talking about Base Gotenks

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Looking at the japanese version of Daizenshuu 7, it seems like Gotenks is the only Saiyan to only be featured in his base form. All the other Saiyans have pictures of their multiple forms in their entries. (Pages 79-81, 92, 107 & 108).
 

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Which quote are you referencing?
 

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Gotenks is also featured in his Super Saiyan 3 form.
 

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This might have me back in the nerfed SSJ multipliers field. The usual 2.5x would be too small here, but 4-5x is perfect. You had SSJ = 4x, right? @SSJ2

SSJ3 Goku/SSJ Gotenks Pre 400
Fat Boo 300
SSJ2 Vegeta: 100
Base Gotenks Pre: 80-100

Gotenks is also featured in his Super Saiyan 3 form.

Open the link in the OP. That’s just base, skinny and fat Gotenks. It’s the Chozenshuu that shows SSJ3 Gotenks.
 

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4x always felt perfect for fusion to me. It's hard to explain narratively though. How is Goku confident in Gotenks being able to beat Boo if Super Saiyan is a 4x multiplier? How could he possibly calculate that? Unless it's more of a general confidence and he actually expected Gotenks to completely wipe the floor with Boo.
 

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4x always felt perfect for fusion to me. It's hard to explain narratively though. How is Goku confident in Gotenks being able to beat Boo if Super Saiyan is a 4x multiplier? How could he possibly calculate that? Unless it's more of a general confidence and he actually expected Gotenks to completely wipe the floor with Boo.

It always felt like just general confidence to me. Goku’s experience with fusion is too limited for him to be making accurate decisions.

I think his logic is: The fusion he saw was a X times boost. Boo is less than X times the SSJ Boys. So fusion should be superior to Boo.

Narratively, it’s just the multiplier being secondary to the the story itself. Everything post Boo Saga makes SSJ look like a small boost.
 

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What about his later predictions of fusion with Gohan/Vegeta? I guess he was able to sense Gotenks by that point so he'd have an understanding of exactly how it worked.
 

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Looking at the japanese version of Daizenshuu 7, it seems like Gotenks is the only Saiyan to only be featured in his base form. All the other Saiyans have pictures of their multiple forms in their entries. (Pages 79-81, 92, 107 & 108).
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