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  1. Lucifer

    Full Base Saiyan Chain

    No you're the one claiming it was about raw power when it doesn't need to be. Trunks didn't punch him nor did he pour his Ki. Your examples are irrelevant to this instance since they demonstrate more power in one of those two ways and those quotes just further elaborated. Here is an example...
  2. Lucifer

    Full Base Saiyan Chain

    No it doesn't always mean stronger juat becasue you say so. Trunks used a technique to push him back. Tien and freeza have shown to do similar things. Power is shown through either Ki, or the damage that their strikes induce.
  3. Lucifer

    Full Base Saiyan Chain

    It can mean stronger but that doesn't have to always be the case every time that word is used. Trunks displayed a technique and not raw power, so it wouldn't have to be interpreted as such.
  4. Lucifer

    Full Base Saiyan Chain

    That's the Viz translation. The real translation only says he had improved. Cell: “…Looks like you really have improved…”
  5. Lucifer

    Full Base Saiyan Chain

    The original was, not after the ROSAT.
  6. Lucifer

    Full Base Saiyan Chain

    He said he improved, not that he had more power.
  7. Lucifer

    Full Base Saiyan Chain

    The base saiyans are at the same level from the androids Arc. They were never shown or stated to have increased their power further after hitting the wall.
  8. Lucifer

    Kaioshin Strength

    Kaioshin was stated to be much more powerful than Piccolo and isn't really contradicted anywhere.
  9. Lucifer

    SSJ2 Goku VS SSJ2 Majin Vegeta

    Goku might win out in the end due to a slight power advantage.
  10. Lucifer

    Monster Zarbon

    Zarbon was still likely more powerful but Vegeta managed to drop his power his power down enough to defeat him.

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